Am I missing something? Microsoft literally won’t let me upgrade because my fully functional processor is deemed to old for them. Of coarse the adoption rate is low if they start by excluding a good portion of their user base.
Windows 11 has one specific limiting feature that drives me bonkers and it’s not being able to click the clock in the bottom right on a secondary monitor to pull up a calendar. Windows 10 has this, why remove it?
It’s a miniscule but good feature
It seems like they are going out of their way to remove good features. Like they removed the option to right click the taskbar and open task manager. They since added it back, but only because of user demand.
They have removed quick access to disabling the network, seeing and changing ip settings.
I can’t remember all the annoying issues, but there’s a lot.
I hate that it has become a general thing to ruin user experience and possibilities of customization. Google is doing the same with android.
The volume mixer is also only now coming back.
My biggest issue is that you can’t open new file explorer tabs in the same window. So before you know it, you have 10 different file browser windows open. It wasn’t a Windows 10 feature either but there was an extension called Qtabbar that allowed it. That doesn’t work on Windows 11. So I’ve been using free commander as a work around. It’s annoying though.
Seems like a lot of stuff like that though. At this point I only use windows to play games and I want to interact with the OS as little as possible, so I don’t understand why I would want an updated UI with more ads and Microsoft integrations when it does nothing to improve what I actually use it for.
Are you sure? Singing in with an online Microsoft account improves your experience*
*it allows us to collect data on you
Kind of forgot what an OS is… Should fade into the background (but how do you make money with that???)
At launch you couldn’t even have that clock on the second screen, they added it back partially in an update, non-clickable.
And win11 is filled with this sort of thing. It’s the worst update windows ever got, except maybe for winMe - which I don’t recall that well.
VISTA comes to mind when i was getting more into computers. I missed XP so bad. Then 7 came out and it was great!
half of what made 7 great was first added as an update on vista but people were already burned from it and unwilling to give vista another try.
My minor but really irritating gripe is the unmovable taskbar (which I’m not sure if this has changed or not), I’ve been a top taskbar person since xp and it doesn’t make sense to me to remove a feature like that. Apparently there are Reg hacks or third party tools to do what I want but I really shouldn’t have to resort to that Imo.
I have tried a reg hack, which worked pretty well, but it kept resetting after every update. And changing the registries I did (don’t recall which I changed or if they still work.) also came with some annoying issues, like window preview still show on top of taskbar (so outside of your screen) among other thing.
I also preferred to have a smaller taskbar which is also no longer possible.
So I have given up and resorted to a bottom taskbar on autohide. But even that has some wonky interactions, with for example windows + tab, where there is a nice shade behind your different virtual desktops, but it stops at the original location of the taskbar.
The taskbar nailed immovable to the bottom is some impressively dumb bullshit. That limitation is so unnecessary and useless I can only chalk it up to brutal idiocy on the product managers side.
I didn’t even realize this. What in the backwards UI design is that?
This was linked as an answer in an Microsoft answers thread with this being the thread in question. Honestly I have no idea why it was removed, and I’m pretty simple with a top taskbar. I know a few people who use side taskbars pretty heavily.
I’m still waiting for the uncombined icons on taskbar
Small icons, show title, never combine.
Still waiting on the release that contains this.
YES PLEASE
I think they just released that…
I updated but don’t see it in my w11 taskbar options
Me neither
From a technical perspective, they didn’t remove it or any of the other missing features from the taskbar since the win11 taskbar was built from scratch without any of the old code for 10. For whatever reason, that feature wasn’t prioritized in the new taskbar build so it wasn’t built yet, or they didn’t want to add it.
I still think their decision to not allow the new taskbar to be placed on the sides or top is really stupid though, as someone with a 32:9 monitor, I’d much rather use some of my horizontal space for taskbar rather than limited vertical space.
This is my biggest gripe with W11 as well. I used to use that all the time to check what day any given date is.
Let’s see. Its full of ads, spyware and the ui is a complete mess.
I can’t imagine why people a digging in there heals
Honestly, I think, like the article says, the hardware issue is the biggest hurdle. People use Facebook, after all, and it is full of ads and its UI is also a complete mess.
I am on Windows 11. The UI has been more consistent than 10 ever was and I am curious where the ads are.
The ‘news’ thing in the taskbar counts, I think. As does the recommended apps and preinstalled candy crush. It’s looking less and less like a professional tool nowadays.
You can hide the news button on the taskbar and I uninstalled all of those extra, pre-installed, bloat apps. My taskbar looks just as clean as it has for the past 20 years.
It should not be necessary to do that in the first place.
Tbf that’s all in the consumer editions.
Even a “pro” install on Windows 10 pre-configured via Rufus will try to install fucking Candy Crush. Professional software my ass.
Ubuntu at least has a very clear “what you need it for” question in its setup, and extended support for older versions for corps. Seems like companies may actually be better off on Linux these days unless you they’re using Adobe products.
You confuse what I meant. In a professional environment, the images should be customized via deployment toolkit. These things should not be in the image at all. But I’ll admit I haven’t looked at the windows 11 builds but I used to do windows 10 and earlier. Any bloatware et al is taken out before production deployments.
Too many features that I use daily as a Sysadmin are missing to consider w11 as anything more than a PITA currently.
At home my PC hardware is fully capable but my HDD will need a reformat, so I either rebuild my system from scratch (not gonna happen any time soon) or fork out for yet another HDD and transfer tools.
So it’s an imposed cost for little benefit and a whole mountain of inconvenience.
I literally disabled my TPM chip to prevent w11 force installing itself. Management forked out for a new fleet of w11 machines and staff are straight up refusing to move off older slower PC’s to avoid w11.
W11 needs a solid 12 months of re-adding existing features to be worth looking sideways at.
You must be on win7 or older.
Why? Your comment makes no sense.
Why would you need a new hdd?
I hate that I can’t have labels in the taskbar. Really slows down my workflow
Do you mean these taskbar labels?
Hooray!!!
I bought a new laptop that came with 11, I haven’t had any super annoying issues… Actually the preinstalled Samsung apps are more annoying than anything OS related… But to be fair, when I was setting it up, I looked into how to do it without connecting to a Microsoft account - it’s possible but takes a little work. I wonder if that is the difference…
My personal computer is a Windows 11 desktop and I performed a clean install when I got it. So now I don’t have any pre-installed apps from the manufacturer. I did use a Microsoft account to sign in, and then just removed or customized whatever I didn’t like
I mean… Full of Ads seems a bit exaggerating… And I have seen much worse UIs on Linux… The spyware part nothing to say, plenty of telemetry and other stuff so yeah…
Full of Ads seems a bit exaggerating…
One is enough. Especially considering it’s a paid product.
And I have seen much worse UIs on Linux…
This is like saying “Motorcycles are better, because I’ve seen some terrible car designs”
plenty of telemetry and other stuff so yeah…
So as long as many people do a thing, it makes it ok, ya?
Well both are operating systems just putting an example that I have seen plenty worse. And no it is not bad…yeah there is always something that could be better but come on if it was that terrible it wouldn’t be used by millions of people everyday without massive issues.
And for the last point to be clear I was agreeing on the spyware in case it wasn’t clear. I wasn’t saying that it was ok I was saying that yeah it’s true it has plenty so nothing to say on my part.
I get Tron back at Reddit and that cleans up my windows
Why would I upgrade to an OS that pushes ads on my login screen and start menu? Some software forces me to keep a windows machine around but I’m certainly in no hurry to upgrade from 10 to 11.
Disabled with a single click.
The fact it’s there at all is fucked. No thanks I’ll pass
And it’s not like ms has a habit of undoing those types of selections during updates, or just changing what way to disable them
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I have a rig with Windows 10, and haven’t upgraded because… Microsoft arbitrarily say my CPU is unsupported, even though it meets all the criteria.
Bypassing takes a click if you download the reg files (there’s an install version and an upgrade version)
Or more clicks if you have to do it manually
My CPU is from 2013 running win11 perfectly fine and fast
That sounds like a lot of work for what seems to be a worse or at least ‘meh’ experience.
It’s not a lot of work, but enough to be annoying and feel irritating. They treat us like they’re doing us a favor, when really they need us to use Windows 11 to enable their services to be profitable. It’s annoying when companies make us jump through hoops to take our money
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If you mean the speed is meh, I’m here to say that it’s exactly as fast as win10 for me which is as fast as a cluttered heavy Linux system
Which is still fast for my CPU even tho it’s 10yo
I siavled the TPM module so it’ll keep saying this. Can’t be forced into an upgrade if the cpu doesn’t seem to be supported
You also seem to have siavled your ability to spell
That I have
Autocorrect can’t save me always, but it’s pretty damn good
2 years is plenty of time to see where linux support is. We should have a good idea by then of where gaming and streaming quality stand for the foreseeable future.
Most of my PCs will easily go to linux, the big question is whether to suck it up and upgrade my gaming rig to 11 or just switch everything to linux.
To me an os should be something that just let’s me run programs of my choice and use my hardware to it’s fullest. Eg be as light as possible.
With windows it just wants to suck up all my hardware/battery by itself and puts up a fight anytime I want to install anything myself
Don’t know how many times now I’ve had to take defaults away from things like edge but yeah
Might want to look into Linux :-)
I really thought that comment was building up to something like “and that’s why I use Arch, btw” lol
As it’s kind of implied at this point I thought I’d leave it out for once ;-)
But yes I do use Arch, btw.
Ah, I was thinking of the original comment when I typed that but in hindsight I guess yours does work haha.
Gotta love good old Arch, someday soon I do hope to outnerd that regularly with “I use NixOS/Bazzite, btw”.
While I exclusively use Linux at home and I recommend it to everyone especially on desktop, they mentioned battery life and from my experience that isn’t its strong suit.
I’m not sure how secure it is, but Chris titus’s windows debloater works wonders for my windows install. Getting rid of edge and other MS clutter really cleans up the windows desktop in a way you wouldn’t think.
I actually have used that as well on most of my family’s computers also. It sure does beat messing with settings.
I think next time I have to reinstall windows I’ll attempt something like tinywin10.
Windows 11 coerced me into being an Ubuntu user.
My pc isn’t compatible with Win11 (unsupported cpu) and since I’m poor, I’m not getting a new one anytime soon.
Besides, Win10 is great.
And when it’s end of life and open season for hackers, just switch to Linux
I’d say switch now, if you’re going to switch eventually anyways, why wait?
I’m a gamer, so that isn’t a viable option for me. I know that it’s starting to get better thanks to the Steamdeck but it has a long way to go.
So anyways, I’ve been playing Baldurs Gate and Genshin on Linux and it’s pretty dope
The steam deck being on a Linux architecture really pushed this forward. Go Linux! And go ARM!
Steam deck is arm? How the hell did I miss that?
That didn’t sound right to me since i knew it was AMD. but long story short, no it’s x86 64 bit. It’s an APU. The CPU portion is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_2
Thanks! I knew that running windows and Linux on arm is weird still especially the latter so that makes more sense
Valheim works like a charm too
genshin works on Linux now? I thought it’s anticheat wasn’t compatible with proton
They actually made the anti cheat compatible. You just run the exe through wine-ge (I use lutris for that) and it just works. Nothing is modified. Lutris installer also has an installer script that just runs a clean unmodified exe from mihoyo’s site.
I’ve been running it since 3.8 just fine, everything just works in it. Apparently it’s been supported since 3.5.
Avoid AnAnimeGame Launcher, that is the launcher where they modify your files, which is completely unnecessary now that it’s compatible.
woah, so I could even just add it to steam and use vanilla proton, huh? guess it’s time to make space for another couple dozen gigs in my hard drive lol
I wonder if the anticheat actually works that way or it just makes the game think it works.
Probably works that way, because it used to be a kernel level anti cheat which Wine can’t fake. If an anti cheat runs in user space (which they should, kernel level is a massive security issue), then it should run with Wine just fine.
The ban hammer will come soon.
Personally, I don’t see it coming anytime soon. I played genshin on linux for maybe over a year, and with the fps unlocker for maybe almost 2 years, on both windows and linux, and have never been banned.
I stopped playing on version a few months ago though.
Windows, a solution to problems that only exist because of Windows.
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Windows 10 isn’t even close to end of support.
If enterprise users haven’t moved over then individual users don’t need to.
I will move over before support finishes but make no mistake that’ll be because I’m forced to due to security reasons and not because I want to.
My windows 10 enterprise has been running flawlessly.
It isn’t that far off from end of life…
“Windows 10 will reach end of support on October 14, 2025. The current version, 22H2, will be the final version of Windows 10, and all editions will remain in support with monthly security update releases through that date. Existing LTSC releases will continue to receive updates beyond that date based on their specific lifecycles.”
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-home-and-pro
Only 2 years.
Two years goes by fast. The only people getting extended support are enterprise customers. And that gets progressively more expensive until the extended support ends.
It sure does. But if businesses haven’t panicked then a home user doesn’t need to.
Reviewing and redoing intune policies, deployments, software compatibility testing, driver deployment ,reconfiguring autopilot and testing through the rings is an absolute pain in the arse.
For personal deployments you can deploy within one day. No need to worry about any of the above. So if businesses aren’t worried yet neither should regular consumers.
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The usual “switch to Linux” spiel.
It’s easier than ever before, blah blah blah.
[Debian based distro] is a good option.
Beware of temporary pitfalls such as Adobe and arrogant game devs decided not to tick the EAC/Battleye for Proton compatibility box, etc.
Tbh, it’s really getting tiring to tell people to try Linux to only get hit with a tsunami of out of date straw man arguments featuring issues that haven’t be relevant in almost a decade.
I doubt I’ll switch any time soon, I use Linux for work and have a dislike for how small issues turn into hours of troubleshooting, but anyway, not the point. I think something that deters a lot of people are the really vocal people who shove it down others throats and treat people who don’t want to switch like idiots.
We all have our reasons, I’ll keep using Win10 until it becomes too much of a security risk and then reevaluate my options. For now I enjoy having shit that just works, for example, I use Cura, it hasn’t had a working Linux release in years, there’s a lot of deterrents for the layperson or those who have to troubleshoot and struggle to get shit working for a job and couldn’t be arsed to do it in their personal time.
Ah, also, some things I see in these comments I don’t really deal with because I use enterprise edition. MS I believe is smart enough to not fuck with their enterprise customers as that’s where their profits are, so I guess my experience is slightly different (I was also an MS SysEng for ~12 years)
Made the switch, yet its still easier for me to remote onto a windows machine to still use autodesk than learn any free alternatives ( freeCAD :l ), and a WiFi driver took me 2 days to find. However my workplace for some unbenownst reason has 11 Pro (instead of enterprise) on some of our machines, which Ill notice popups for office360 and kinda cringe at, hoping the customer never does
Do have to push prusaSlicer, I used Cura for so long but just experimenting found more satisfaction for the slic3r solver, especially for bridges and overhangs
I’ve been walking a friend through starting to print stuff and he uses Arch, so is in turn using Prusa. I find there’s a bunch of settings that are either obfuscated behind one master setting or stuff that’s just plain missing. I’m not going to deny that the slicer itself may be better but I need more options.
Im actually curious what those would be, I’ve been mostly “vanilla” printing, tweaking speed and the likes, only recently tried ironing. And I would hate to be missing out on a cool feature and not even know it lol
I almost forgot.
Prusa hides some of these settings…
This gives some kickass supports. The settings for the z distance needs to be adjusted according to your layer height. Also, this is an old screenshot, I now use tree supports, but all the support interface settings is what actually counts.
And that would explain a lot of the behaviors I could’ve probably tweaked with cura… thanks!
Nah, nothing cool or interesting unfortunately, it’s things like extrusion widths (AFAIK there’s just an extrusion multiplier in Prusa)
I mainly use it to get badass supports and rafts that leave the bottom of the print looking good. The trick is, on the top layers of the support material, have the lines less than a mm apart, then under extrude it dramatically, this leaves a really brittle but quite solid layer that doesn’t tend to stick to the print very well but gives good support.
I’ll see if I can find the screenshot I took of all my support settings if you’re interested.
All valid.
I personally believe that if work mandates electronic material for your job or project, then they should provide the equipment. However, if this is not possible, then getting equipment that is specialized for your work is a more prudent solution that you can free your daily driver from.
After all, we shouldn’t be married to our work. It should be an investment in our skills and abilities.
This you may hate me for but I use windows on both my work laptop and my personal PC, makes it easier to RDP onto my laptop and use all my screens when I’m at home. WSL is handy and for everything else I go the cattle route and just spin up an EC2 Instance. That is something I appreciate about Linux, when you write a working script, that shit just works and rarely breaks, so making ephemeral environments is trivial and super handy.
Also people seem to completely ignore the amount of re-learning I’d need to do to switch. I’m not really a power user of Windows, but part of the reason it runs pretty smoothly for me is that I have a decade plus of knowledge of common failure points. You sort of get an intuition about things after awhile that I don’t have on a different OS. Little issues the might result in a couple of days of troubleshooting are just solved immediately because I have hunches on what the issue is.
Meanwhile I’m struggling on my steamdeck to deal with minor problems because I’m very unfamiliar with the setup. It’s not insurmountable, but it’s a barrier to entry that I’m not willing to undertake just yet.
Hallucinations aside, if you use it with skepticism, ChatGPT can be great at walking you through stuff and helping you understand why things work the way they do. I’m using it like a teacher to get better at Python and it’s great.
Does ChatGPT still require giving your phone number to sign up? Because I noped out when it asked me for that shit.
I just use Google one click sign in, no phone number required.
Wait cura is that out of date on Linux? I’ve been using superslicer since cura was kinda confusing to me but I’m surprised it’s lagging behind with the Linux builds
I have no idea what they’re talking about. The Windows and Linux versions have been released in step and work perfectly fine on Linux.
I think they may have just released a working Linux version in the last few weeks but I haven’t really looked into it,was just something I heard.
Thank you for doing this work. I tried Ubuntu dual booted in 2011 and loved it but gave it up when windows re-wrote the boot. I finally got a linux machine when I got a second PC. I think laptops and phones are the best bolster to linux - you can troubleshoot on a second screen instead of getting soft-locked while doing a base install to a mission critical computer.
There is a trend line of the amount of shit you need to do to get linux to do things you want.
There is a trend line of the amount of shit you need to do to stop windows from doing things you don’t want.Those two lines have crossed quite a while ago.
My “fuck this” moment came about 7y ago when Microsoft started forcing reboots that couldn’t be disabled even with group policy. I think I lost work 2 or 3 times because I’d stayed up late working and eventually just fell into bed without saving everything and shutting the machine down. I woke up to a login screen the next morning and said “oh fuck this” the second or third time it happened.
The most shameful thing is that many applications that would fail to come back with all their state after restart were Microsoft’s own programs like Sql Server Management Studio – that one does better now, but well over a decade too late.
Being real though, for most people on actual personal computers, not work devices, linux does everything you need, though with different software in some cases.
If you rely on adobe for personal hobbies, you’re fucked. An ever shrinking amount of games don’t play well with proton. And if you use a pc for your music listening/organization, you’re not going to enjoy things much. That’s it.
Now, switching software like word over to libreoffice can take a week or so of adjustment, but you can write a bloody novel on it. Same with the other libreoffice tools; they do perfectly well.
Yeah, work programs might not be optional, so until the big names start serving the linux market, not everyone will have full choice. But for those of us that aren’t locked into an industry standard piece of software? It’s really not an issue now.
Even when 10 came out, there wasn’t a lot of issue switching over. Gaming at the time was the biggest non-work weakness.
The only thing I haven’t been able to replace and do as well or better with is with audio. Linux doesn’t have any programs that match musicbee.
if you use a pc for your music listening/organization, you’re not going to enjoy things much
False. Rhythmbox is like itunes minus every single thing you disliked about it plus it has flac support.
And if the organization bit was supposed to mean that explorer is better than any standard file manager on Linux… I definitely disagree there too
What if I use foobar and will not settle for anything less?
I have not fully moved to linux yet. Last time I tried it through wine back in 2020 it ran like shit. Deadbeef did not have feature parity either. Wonder how good is it now.I don’t know what deadbeef or foobar are, but rhythm box is a great music player if you care about music organization and playback
Flac is a low bar for any music player though. I don’t know whether itunes support it yet, don’t care.
I’m sure Rhythmbox works well for you and that is great. But I also need some niche features which might not be in it.
Mostly conversion and forensic thing.
ape tak tta format, bit compare, audio checksum, mass-tag/batch-tag, replaygain, custom playlist columns, statistic driven field. Don’t know what else until I try and find it’s missing.I’m also sure I can get all those and more in different cli tool if I want but getting them in one software is very convenient.
After a quick look, DeaDBeeF might have most of what I want.
- Sort and group the tracks in any order you wish, using advanced Title Formatting scripting, compatible with Foobar2000
Got the date wrong, last time I tried it was 2018. Lot of new features added since then.
It’s fair to want all the features you already have. In my experience though, the move to Linux is about figuring it out. You don’t want to use a bunch of cli stuff, also fair. I’m just saying there’s practically no unsolved problem if you just commit to the switch. Typically someone already wrote an app or script to do whatever it is.
Sadly because I have an Nvidia card I have gaming issues that keep cropping up, and my experience running Adobe apps via wine is that sometimes they are unbearably slow, otherwise all the other niche requirements I have were met by Ubuntu variants. And I learned a lot in the process.
The great irony is, a lot of the enterprise stuff DOES work on Linux. There’s even a mative Microsoft Teams client. Further, the biggest innovation to Windows lately … has been adding Linux to it with WSL.
Even Microsoft knows Windows sucks and is supporting Linux more than they used to.
