I’d outlaw sauce bottles which make getting it all out harder, especially the ones which don’t have the opening at the bottom and make it impossible to put the bottle with the opening facing downwards.

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    Displaying any price other than the final price I have to pay inclusive of all fees and charges. I don’t care about a number that has some mathematical relationship to what’s going to come out of my bank account, just tell me the price. This always annoys me so much when I travel to the US but it’s probably like that in a few other places too.

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      And lying about why something is charged, although it’s not silly. A takeaway website I worked for adds “service charge” which is literally just a delivery charge, but hidden, because you only see it during finalization. It doesn’t apply to pick-up orders, only delivery. Many websites seem to had adopted it so they can lie about the free delivery.

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      In the USA, companies like Ticketmaster now have to show the full price upfront, including all taxes and fees. Airlines have had to do it for a little over 10 years, too. I really hope this is enforced for more industries in the future.

      If I’m at a physical store, they know the tax rate, so the listed prices should include taxes! Same with a restaurant, more and more of which are hiding nonsense fees.

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        And multiple different unit prices across brands. It’s easy when one product uses per kilo while another uses per 100g, but it’s more annoying in the US when one product shows unit pricing per pound while another shows it per ounce.

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          Came here to say this! At least if it was metric it’d be an easy conversion. But america still clings to it’s stupid units and I end up just not buying stuff rather than trying to do math in my head a hundred times in the grocery store.

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            I’m grateful that US food/drink packaging at least has both American units and metric units. I’m an Australian living in the USA so I always just look at the metric units.

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      Also on stoves. “Oh, you wanna turn off a burner? Sorry, your fingers are too wet. Also, I hope you remembered to read the 300 page manual because we’ve never even heard of intuitive controls”

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        The controls on my stove are those weird flat buttons you’d see on a lot of late 90’s appliances? Like they don’t “press” at all but they do respond to pressure so I could preheat my oven with the end of a spoon or something. Those are superior to capacitive touch controls.

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      I have a Citroen Berlingo and everything except the Android Auto stuff is operated by buttons. What cars don’t use buttons? And for what features?

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        My dad’s Toyota Avalon has a touch screen for the infotainment center, and the climate controls are a touch-sensitive panel rather than mechanical switches. Which means if you go to wipe dust off the dashboard, you fuck up the air conditioner settings. I don’t know what’s worse, all the touch controls, or all the chrome on the dashboard scientifically aligned to glint sunlight into your eyes.

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          scientifically aligned to glint sunlight into your eyes.

          Speaking of, the trend of absolutely blinding headlights should be outlawed. It’s especially bad for those of us who drive tiny sedans and live in the US, where seemingly every other car on the road is a lifted F350 with the headlights pointed straight at eye/side mirror/rearview mirror level. There have been more than a few times where a car coming towards me or sitting on the other side of an intersection at a red light has blinded me to the point where I literally can’t see anything else. Recently at a stop sign, I couldn’t tell if the truck across from me was about to go or not, and I was needing to turn left. They are SO fucking dangerous. And yet, cops will pu people over for having shit hanging from the rearview mirror, or for a big enough crack in a windshield?? We have our priorities so fucked up.

          Also that type of reflective tint on back windows that makes the sun go straight into your eyes when driving behind someone who has it. Wtf is that and why. I had no idea that regular window tint needed to be “improved” / re-engineered.

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    Billboards. Get them out of here! Everyone gets to put their name on the side of the building in at most 2m tall black or white Time New Roman.

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      There is so much unnecessary advertising in my country. Billboards, commercials on a screen at fuel stations, placards on park benches. None of it has any tangible benefit to regular people. None.

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        Fuck that. Banksy wrote:

        Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.

        You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.

        The longer quote is here.

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        In the US there are 4 states that have outlawed billboards: Vermont, Maine, Alaska, and Hawaii. I absolutely would not complain if it became nationwide.

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          Some states also seem to prohibit billboards on certain stretches of highway. There was a state highway I used to take daily in Connecticut and there were no billboards anywhere.

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      Broaden this to any ads on the streets. Billboards are the most egregious, but I’d actually kill for a society where I can get from my home to a grocery with nothing trying to sell me something.

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        I am okay with the business itself having signage on its property visible from far enough away for travelers to make navigational decisions. I’m also okay with those state-issued signs on large highways that point out things like lodging, fuel and food which must conform to certain guidelines. And in this case, I’d prefer using clear and distinctive logos which are recognizable by color and shape so that motorists can recognize them faster and spend more of their attention on the road.

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          I think those could be considered less ads and more just informational postings, particularly the food and fuel lines a la the signs at each interstate exit that tells you the amenities available near any given exit. Considering, as well, that they usually have several competitors on the same sign, and it feels even less ad-like

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            It’s closer to the scale of what “advertising” should be if it wasn’t the bloated cancerous mass that it is today. I want businesses to exist and I want interested customers to be able to find these businesses, but I don’t want to be told “I’m not a dish, I’m a man” nine times an hour. Signs along the interstate that say “Hey at this next exit there’s a McDonald’s and a Denny’s, an Exxon and a BP truck stop, and a Holiday Inn” are genuinely useful.

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      I’m ambivalent on this one. If the ad on a building serves to keep the charges from tenants lower then I don’t mind (given the ad is somewhat tasteful). Ads for the sake of ads? Yea, fuck that.

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        If the ad on a building serves to keep the charges from tenants lower then I don’t mind

        Lol. That’s just bonus money for the building owner and tenants will probably get a rent hike just because.

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      I disagree with the requirement for plain labels. Trademarks exist for consumer protection as well as business protection; I want Gatorade to hold a trademark on clear bottles with lightning bolts on the front and orange caps, because I don’t want to be fooled into buying Negligent Uncle Greg’s Geterade. If anything, I would force companies to use fewer of them; no hosing Amazon with 900,000 differently branded permutations of the same product.

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    Single-use plastic packaging! All packaging now comes in a set of standard ISO sizes and satisfying some engineering constraints and requirements. You get a Coke from a convenience store - it comes as a 0.5L glass bottle. You finish with it, put it on a rack inside the store with all the other empty 0.5L bottles to be taken back to the factory to be washed and inspected for chips and reused. It could be filled with Pepsi next time! Just slap on a new paper label.

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      I wouldn’t call it a silly issue myself. I’d ban all plastic packaging unless proven to have no alternative. I’m also infiuriated with countries for making easily recyclable materials actively hard to recycle: speaking of glass. They make it so you have to take it to a recycling point, which can be sparse depending on your idea. Glass and metals are amazing for recycling. But no, make everything plastic and actively push people away from purchasing glass by making them have to go out of their way to recycle it. Plastic bottles frequently aren’t even better. I had multiple plastic sauce bottles break akin to glass and leak out.

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        which can be sparse depending on your idea

        Yes! Which is why my idea is to have a collection point at every point of sale. And the first aim will be to reuse the packaging, not even recycle it (melt it down)! This is why ISO standardization is necessary - you don’t want to keep track of Coke bottles and Pepsi bottles, they need to be identical. The same truck that delivers a pallet of bottles from the factory to your store will take the pallet of empties out.

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          I cannot agree on the reuse. The amount of CO2 emited from the extra transportation and water wasted on cleaning, plus the possibility of lower sanitary quality all add into it making less sense than recycling, but perhaps I’m wrong and those are of lesser negative value than the process of recycling.

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            The numbers I heard is that reusing a bottle is less energy intensive than melting it down. It’s sanitary if you sterilize it properly by heating to >100°C, which is still much less energy than heating it to 1723°C to melt. As for water, I try to think on a 100 year time scale, where water is a renewable resource, but plastic is not.

            It’s true that the energy savings will be wasted if you end up trucking the pallet of glass soda bottles all the way across America! But you shouldn’t be trucking bottles that far anyway - you should be sending rail tanker cars full of syrup to a bottling plant in each state and use local water to mix it.

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      Here in Finland we have a really extensive and efficient plastic bottle and aluminum can recycling system. Every bottle and can has a deposit (0.40 € for large bottles, 0.20 € for small bottles, 0.15 € for cans) and you can cash them by returning them at any store. Just toss them in a machine.

      There’s even some hypermarkets where you can just pour in a giant bag full of bottles or cans and the machine sorts and prices the things automatically.

      It’s super annoying we still can’t really do the same for rest of the single use plastic, but at least trash sorting and recycling what can be recycled is a thing everywhere. We have a lot of projects that aim to reduce those. Probably the coolest recent thing was that someone came up with all-carton coffee cups. (I hope they catch on so we can get rid of the cups that have the Sad Turtle Warning. I don’t want turtles to be sad, they’re awesome.)

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        That’s great! Our supermarkets have bottle deposit machines too, and even at only $0.05 deposit per bottle they are widely used. However, the poor people using them mostly obtain the bottles by rifling through apartment complex recycling bins on garbage day (all residents are already required to separate plastic from garbage).

        Moreover I don’t believe plastic is actually recycled. My city has started burning 90% of its incoming plastic stream and still calls it “recycling”! That’s still fossil carbon coming out of the ground and ending up in the atmosphere, you doofuses! The minor fraction of plastic that IS recycled is either downcycled into lower quality items like plastic planks for outdoor decks, or mixed with at least 50% virgin plastic material if making new plastic bottles. There is currently no way to 100% recycle plastic into the same type of item AFAIK, because the polymer molecules chemically degrade.

        When I think about recycling I want to think in terms of “is this kind of lifestyle sustainable for 100 years? for 1000 years?” Taking fossil carbon out of the ground is not sustainable. Aluminum and glass are recyclable 100%! Can we do even better with reuse?

        There is a store near me that sells illegally-imported African coke. It comes in a bottle that looks beat up to shit, but that’s because the bottle was probably used hundreds of times, since in the African country they actually reuse the bottle. It’s still perfectly fit for purpose though! We just need to relax our expectations for how “pristine” we want our product packaging to look.

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      Everything should be glass or aluminum. Preferably aluminum since you don’t really have to worry about mixtures and cleaning it, you just melt it down and reshape it. With glass, you have to separate out the different types, and it still breaks down each recycle, I believe, since they mix silica with other compounds to make different kinds of glass.

      I honestly don’t understand stand why plastic beverage bottles are still a thing. Cans work perfectly. And if you insist on bottles, they can make aluminum cans too.

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        you should check how much energy is needed to melt and reshape aluminium…Thick PET boxes plus cleaning them uses far less energy

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        Aluminium cans need a plastic lining to prevent corrosive drinks from eating through them and/or to prevent the aluminium from leeching into your drink.

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      While we’re on the subject of plastic packaging:

      I want the recent Dutch law on single use plastics to be significantly rewritten.

      So they passed a law, requiring sellers to charge people for single use plastic containers. Sounds cool, right? Well, the law has some problems:

      • the seller is allowed to set the surcharge to be as high as they want it to be.
      • the seller may keep the money from the surcharge
      • the seller is not required to offer an alternative
      • the seller can refuse to honour people’s request for them using their own packaging

      So effectively, they’ll set the surcharges to be as low as they can, and don’t bother allowing anyone to use alternatives. If you go to a snack bar, ask for a serving of fries, and offer your own bowl to put them in, the seller can just tell you “NOPE”

      So I think the law should be retooled to cover these issues. The prices should be set from above, the money should go to the state, and the seller must honour customers’ requests for using their own packaging alternatives.

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        the seller can refuse to honour people’s request for them using their own packaging

        Preposterous! How are we expected to reduce our consumption of single use containers if we are not allowed to use anything else?

        I’ve had great success bringing my own sealable glass bowls when I want to get takeout and they eyeball out the regular size portion for me. But here currently it’s only possible on an ad-hoc basis, by asking as a favor as a regular, since it’s just not part of custom. It would be great if bring-your-own-container was protected and encouraged by law!

        My city passed a plastic bag ban recently and I was skeptical about it at first but it actually has been a great help. Not even so much in banning the bags themselves, but in changing the culture and expectations. Now it feels perfectly normal to bring in your own canvas bags to shop because everyone does it, whereby before you’d look like a weirdo for doing it.

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      The worst part about plastic bottles is the energy required to make them.

      They go through a 2 stage process where the plastic is melted and injection molded into a “pre-form”

      Then they get fed into a blowmolding machine where they are heated in different areas by many 2k watt halogen bulbs. Once they’ve been heated properly they go into the blow mold where they are pressurized with ~500psi air.

      The molds are liquid cooled through an industrial pipe system with an extremely large refrigeration system. The energy required to run all of the equipment is insane. A factory can consume as much energy in one hour as a standard home will in an entire year.

      This doesn’t include all of the energy required for moving materials around since performs can be made at one factory and shipped to another and empty bottles are often shipped to warehouses and then off to the plant where they will be filled, then warehoused then distributed etc.

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      Some countries (at least Australia, USA, and many European countries) have deposits on bottles and cans where you pay a deposit of somewhere between 5 and 40 cents (depending on country) when you buy the drink, and get the deposit back when you return it to a store or recycling center for recycling. Reusing instead of recycling would be the next logical step there.

      There are actually some companies in the USA that reuse bottles, Straus Family Creamery being one of the more well-known ones at least in my area. They charge a $3 deposit per milk bottle. When you return the bottle to the store, you get your $3 back and the store returns it to Straus. They put the returned bottles in crates and the delivery drivers pick up the old bottles when they drop off the new ones.

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      I’m on board with this except instead of reusable glass bottles that need to be transported around, you’re responsible for your own reusable bottle/mug/thermos and you can only get beverages from a soda fountain.

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      I’d shift that slightly.

      Bottled water can be useful in emergencies and disaster situations, but they should be treated like other emergency items/rations. People should use reusable containers as much as possible, and the companies should NOT get to suck up all the water they want for free.

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      Even in area where it’s slightly unsafe, you can get a water filter that installs onto your tap, or even a whole house water filter.

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    Smokers smoking near non-smokers. Even outside. Go pollute your own air, not everyone’s.

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      I’m on board with that as soon as we ban scented laundry detergent, dryer sheets and perfume.

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        You’re probably not serious, but I wrote this it out, so I’ll post it:

        The difference is that smokers actively blow smelly air out, whereas perfume is just a passive (if smelly) thing on one’s body. To ban perfume would be more similar to banning people who smoke (even if they’re not actively smoking) because the smoke lingers in their hair and clothes, and that opens up the door to banning construction workers because they might smell sweaty, farmers because they might smell like manure, or preschool teachers because they might smell like baby spit/vomit. Let’s just ban smoking as an activity.

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          I’m quite serious. I have allergic reactions to perfumes and scents that are in many products - at first it’s uncomfortable, and with continued exposure, my eyes turn red, nose clogs, my lips swell and I start sneezing. For some reason it’s okay for people to blow huge amounts of these scents from dryer vents, and wear them and clothing exuding the fragrances in public. It’s not about the odor or some judgement about which fragrance people use. Like cigarettes, it’s chemicals in the air which cause problems for me and many other people. In many areas workplaces have adopted fragrance-free policies. It’s not something I can control in public, though, such as on airplanes or stores, and as your post illustrates, most people don’t understand or take it seriously.

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              Anything that exudes a fragrance, which includes roll-ons or sticks. Body spray is worse, probably because it ends up covering more area. I had a GF who used Secret brand literally in secret after she went to work. I’d tried to replace it with half a dozen scent-free ones and she was worried it wasn’t enough. So, she’d come home and I’d be like hmm, you smell odd… it’s an very inconvenient thing to have because I have to ask people close to me to use fragrance free things too, so I can stand being near them.

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            Got it. I really did think it was just a judgement of those who wish to hide their body odor. I’m sorry it affects you. Maybe both really should be banned.

            Perfume designers should design hypoallergenic perfumes.

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              Oh, right on. I do understand the body odor thing - my problem is I can use antiperspirant but not fragrances. Probably some people think I’m a heathen. I’m sure more people hate BO than are bothered by perfumes. One thing that gets me is people have scented shampoo, conditioner, deodorant, hair spray, laundry detergent, fabric softener, even hand lotion, and they all have different scents, so they end up smelling like 10 different fragrances at once. I have issues with things like scented dish or dishwasher detergent too, and fragrance free ones - no problem at all.

              Essential oils are easier for me to deal with, but they still get me after a while. Makes sense since lavender essential oil is not just one thing but actually 100 different chemicals. Natural scents are easier to deal with than synthetic (‘fragrance’ and ‘parfum’ in ingredients), for some reason, maybe because synthetic scent products often have a carrier like pthalates. I’d love to figure out what it actually is.

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          Counter-point… sweat, manure, and baby spit don’t mess with my allergies like perfumes do. Perfumes should be banned (and I also wouldn’t cry if smokers smelling like smoke were banned too).

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      Can’t wait until they pass a law banning “smoking within 10m of another person outdoors” so we can play “chase the smoker!” game and they have to run away from us or face a fine.

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        Please don’t. I live in an apartment building and my neighbor loves to smoke in his flat which blows into my flat. During the summer I have the choise between being baked alive or second hand smoking two packs a day. Take that shit outside, away from people

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    Asking for or even suggesting tips of any kind anywhere. Also gratuities, service fees, and any other kind of made up fee. Show a price, end of story.

    Also outlaw not including taxes. Show full complete prices.

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      I agree. Pay the people a livable wage and price the product accordingly, with taxes included.

      But I do want to still know how much of the cost is tax. Basically an all in cost, but as transparent as possible

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        Fine, but me personally, I don’t care how much is tax. Do it like gasoline. Tax is already part of it.

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      The last part is made more complicated by having different tax rates on different items in different places at different times.

      You see a national ad for Walmart with a widget on sale. Depending on what city and state you buy it, the price will change because the tax rates are different between and even within jurisdictions.

      Maybe the Walmart you go to has a development agreement where they pay higher local tax as a way to cover the infrastructure project the City has to complete to support the building. Or maybe it’s the opposite and Walmart built a bunch of streets an utilities they dedicated to the City and now they don’t pay sales tax to the local jurisdiction.

      Or maybe on September 1st sales tax rates changed in the middle of an ad campaign. Or maybe there’s an additional tax exemption due to a Development Agreement.

      Or maybe that kayak is no longer taxed at the time sale because you bought a trolling motor at the same time and now it’s classified as a motor boat and the customer pays state sales tax when they register it with the state?

      It’s really, really difficult to predict taxes when you’ve for so many wacky jurisdictional issues that affect the tax rate.

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        I think if a company gets large enough to cover multiple jurisdictions, then you can expend the cost to figure that all out. If anything it might make it harder for these mega companies. Screw em. They make plenty of profit. They’ll adapt.

        Separately, more consistent taxation would be nice.

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        Half of the scenarios you noted are not ones I have ever heard of (and I would bet are totally made up). Why would WalMart shoppers be exempt from sales tax?

        You are right that advertising price with tax may be unreasonable. That does not preclude the store from putting the price with tax on the shelf. Out of all the scenarios you described, the only one that this would not cover is having an item be taxed differently if bought in conjunction with another item, but that can be noted in the same way that stores note a bundle or a bulk sales price ($1 each or 5 for $4).

        There is difficulty in the case of a charge in tax rate (how often do those happen? Once every few years) or if there is a tax holiday (I see plenty of clothing stores have a sign for “15% off the marked price”). Those can be handled by having computer controlled shelf prices, which have existed for at least 20 years but never caught on much.

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    Christmas creping into October. Like it already dominates all of December and November, leave Halloween alone.

    People at work were talking about going to a store that already has Christmas stuff set up. It’s getting ridiculous…

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      I was in Walmart yesterday and they had kids holiday clothes on the racks just down the aisle from the Halloween costumes. WTF?!

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      A popular hardware store put up Halloween lawn decorations in Sept and just swapped them for Christmas lawn decorations this past weekend.

      All of them make noise. Can I just get soil in peace?

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      Dude, the local Costco had Xmas stuff up ON MOTHERFUCKING LABOR DAY WEEKEND.

      I also thought infringing on Halloween’s sovereign retail space was going to far, but this is literal insanity.

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      Oh yea, I was at the store today to replenish refrigerator and there were December stuff being sold already. Bit odd. ^ ^’

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      Or just xmas in general. Perfect shitstorm of bullshit religion and runaway, dangerous capitalism.

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      I’m not advocating for capital punishment, I’m just saying that if we lynch a couple of daytime pop radio hosts for siren-like noises then it will probably go away pretty quickly.

      The other day I had a song come on Spotify in which a part of the beat sounded like the cars warning beep. But it was not the right speed to be door or seat belt alarm, so I figured it had to be some else like tire pressure or engine warning… Mother fucker was part of a song and kept me looking for warning lamps blinking for a good minute or so.

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      I want to throw in doorbells with this (but only as a misdemeanor)

      I use Pluto.tv for background noise at night. Amazon is now running some ‘Prime Deal Days’ ads and one of them has a very prominent doorbell sound that wakes my ass up everytime.

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    I’d make it illegal to park in no parking zones, bike lanes, and turning lanes…

    radio chatter from an inexplicable earpiece

    What do you mean that’s already fucking illegal??

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      Up the ante:

      Create a legal mechanism that legalizes vandalism on illegally parked vehicles.

      So if you wanna park illegally, go for it. The odds of a cop seeing you and stopping to cite you may well be in your favor.

      But now anyone you inconvenience can, legally, key the shit out of your car, bust out your windows, and knock off your side mirrors.

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        I heavily disagree, because it puts judgement into the hands of the masses.

        But a photo should be proof enough and if the government (whoever is responsible for issuing fines) confirms it is illegal then the owner of the vehicle gets a fine - and whoever reported it gets 10% of it! Imagine how much money could be raised that way to improve schools and stuff!

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      Also parking too close to a street corner. Technically illegal but very rarely enforced. It is a real safety hazard since, instead of being able to stop at the stop line and see perpendicular traffic, and driver has to enter the intersection to see (and then have their line of sight blocked by a parked vehicle in the perpendicular direction).

      It also makes large vehicles like large trucks and busses take turns very wide.

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        So many people are unaware of this rule. I would that all no parking areas like this and for hydrants have the curb painted a bright colored with the words “no parking”. Why make people guess?

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    Paywall logins that don’t load until you’ve already started reading the article and scrolled down a bit. Show the paywall IMMEDIATELY or don’t have one at all.

    Same goes for ads that appear and block the text.

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    Car locks that trigger the horn and lights. Whatever asshole engineer decided that was a good idea (instead of just making the key fob blink or something) clearly has never had neighbors.