• NateNate60@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    The competition is welcome. We need it to continue to drive innovation. At least in America, traditional American brands haven’t put out anything interesting for years. Just the same models being rehashed, but slightly bigger and more fuel efficient.

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      5 months ago

      Except the US will do everything possible to prevent them from being sold domestically, while still pushing their brands globally. This will lead to a further split in what’s available in the US vs ROW.

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        5 months ago

        There is no way they will be able to prevent people from going to Mexico to buy them though. And that’s what is being predicted.

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          5 months ago

          Unless they come up with something that prevents them from getting DoT certification, sadly I can see them doing that. Or as long as they keep citing “national security” you won’t be able to.

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          5 months ago

          Registration of prohibited car models is not allowed. You might be able to import them, but there might be punitively high tariff and it would not be legal to drive

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          5 months ago

          Yes they will. In Washington State, you have to pay WA sales tax to register a new car you bought in Oregon.

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            5 months ago

            How is making someone pay sales tax stopping them from buying a car in Mexico? Unless they’re going to stop all Mexican cars at the Washington border…

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                5 months ago

                If you just enter the state with the car? I’m not sure what you’re suggesting. Are Mexicans who drive their car from Mexico City to Seattle expected to pay this 300% tax? Are they going to check the citizenship of every driver?

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                  5 months ago

                  You can’t drive a car that is unregistered. You can’t register the car in Mexico, get plates, come up here and expect to drive it around. Eventually when you have to register it, you’ll get a bill.

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                    5 months ago

                    You can keep registering it in Mexico or you can register the car in a state that doesn’t require residency like New York or Indiana.

                    So, again, unless you expect Washington to put up border check stations, I’m not sure how they can make people pay this tax.

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          4 months ago

          you won’t be able to register it anywhere in the united states; which means that you won’t be legally allowed to drive it unless you garage it every night at a mexican address.

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            4 months ago

            You think people with cars registered in Mexico have to go back to Mexico every night?

            Mexicans can’t drive their cars further into the United States than a 12-hour drive? You really think that?

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              4 months ago

              it’s required to by law; only presidents are allowed to break the law. lol

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                4 months ago

                Please do show me the law that Mexicans have to return their car to Mexico every night. I would like to see this law.

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                    4 months ago

                    Nowhere does that even suggest that Mexicans have to return to Mexico within 24 hours if they drive here from Mexico. That’s just not a law. I have no idea why you think Mexicans can’t legally drive from Tijuana to New York City, but they can, despite that taking over 40 hours.

                    They can even drive to Toronto. That would take even longer. And then they can go back through Canada and through the U.S. and back to Mexico and they can stay in the U.S. as long as their travel visa allows.

                    I have no idea why you think they can only get 12 hours from Mexico by car before they have to turn back.

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        5 months ago

        We’re doing it now to support legacy industry, try to push development of local industry, and while there is a technological change going on. But we’re doing it at huge expense. Do you really think that huge expense will hold up after legacy manufacturers never show up for the race, lose their global market, and the rest of the world advances?

        I’m calling it now: Conservative platform for the 2028 election cycle will be to end those protections, to give people more choice, and to let a few billionaires profit

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        5 months ago

        This isn’t protectionism for US companies it’s protectionism for the automotive industry as a whole in the US including manufacturing and sales of foreign brands like Toyota, Hyundai, and BMW. Domestic companies only account for a fraction of cars built and sold here.

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        4 months ago

        Even at 100% the Chinese EVs can be sold cheaper here they will leak in slowly. Chinese EV goes for as little as $12k sooo even at 100% thats cheaper as the lowest cost EV here are almost 3x that

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      4 months ago

      they’re blocked in the united states and canada due to a 100% tariff and also mostly blocked in western europe using tariffs other protectionist means; there will be no innovation for you nor anyone that speak english natively.