• ramble81@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    Except the US will do everything possible to prevent them from being sold domestically, while still pushing their brands globally. This will lead to a further split in what’s available in the US vs ROW.

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      5 months ago

      There is no way they will be able to prevent people from going to Mexico to buy them though. And that’s what is being predicted.

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        5 months ago

        Unless they come up with something that prevents them from getting DoT certification, sadly I can see them doing that. Or as long as they keep citing “national security” you won’t be able to.

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        5 months ago

        Registration of prohibited car models is not allowed. You might be able to import them, but there might be punitively high tariff and it would not be legal to drive

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        5 months ago

        Yes they will. In Washington State, you have to pay WA sales tax to register a new car you bought in Oregon.

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          5 months ago

          How is making someone pay sales tax stopping them from buying a car in Mexico? Unless they’re going to stop all Mexican cars at the Washington border…

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              5 months ago

              If you just enter the state with the car? I’m not sure what you’re suggesting. Are Mexicans who drive their car from Mexico City to Seattle expected to pay this 300% tax? Are they going to check the citizenship of every driver?

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                5 months ago

                You can’t drive a car that is unregistered. You can’t register the car in Mexico, get plates, come up here and expect to drive it around. Eventually when you have to register it, you’ll get a bill.

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                  5 months ago

                  You can keep registering it in Mexico or you can register the car in a state that doesn’t require residency like New York or Indiana.

                  So, again, unless you expect Washington to put up border check stations, I’m not sure how they can make people pay this tax.

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                    5 months ago

                    This doesn’t work as you getting pulled over with a WA ID in a car registered in Mexico is going to raise suspicions.

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                    5 months ago

                    You cannot register a car in New York without living there to avoid paying sales tax in the state you live in. Most states require you to pay sales tax based on your residency and where the vehicle will be primarily used. Additionally, registering a car in a state where you do not reside can be considered fraudulent and may lead to penalties.

                    Registering a car in Mexico also requires residency.

                    I understand the loopholes you are trying to find, but I promise you the penalties for getting caught will be worse than paying the tax.

                    Please don’t let my comments suggest that I support a large tax on these Chinese vehicles. I think everything is way too expensive and we need some competition.

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        4 months ago

        you won’t be able to register it anywhere in the united states; which means that you won’t be legally allowed to drive it unless you garage it every night at a mexican address.

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          4 months ago

          You think people with cars registered in Mexico have to go back to Mexico every night?

          Mexicans can’t drive their cars further into the United States than a 12-hour drive? You really think that?

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            4 months ago

            it’s required to by law; only presidents are allowed to break the law. lol

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              4 months ago

              Please do show me the law that Mexicans have to return their car to Mexico every night. I would like to see this law.

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                  4 months ago

                  Nowhere does that even suggest that Mexicans have to return to Mexico within 24 hours if they drive here from Mexico. That’s just not a law. I have no idea why you think Mexicans can’t legally drive from Tijuana to New York City, but they can, despite that taking over 40 hours.

                  They can even drive to Toronto. That would take even longer. And then they can go back through Canada and through the U.S. and back to Mexico and they can stay in the U.S. as long as their travel visa allows.

                  I have no idea why you think they can only get 12 hours from Mexico by car before they have to turn back.

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                    4 months ago

                    read it, it’s right there in the law: the car has to be qualified by american import restrictions and standards; which these cars do not have and will never get.

                    the only way to legally drive is it is to return it to a garage out of state and all of the states have similar laws.

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      5 months ago

      We’re doing it now to support legacy industry, try to push development of local industry, and while there is a technological change going on. But we’re doing it at huge expense. Do you really think that huge expense will hold up after legacy manufacturers never show up for the race, lose their global market, and the rest of the world advances?

      I’m calling it now: Conservative platform for the 2028 election cycle will be to end those protections, to give people more choice, and to let a few billionaires profit

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      5 months ago

      This isn’t protectionism for US companies it’s protectionism for the automotive industry as a whole in the US including manufacturing and sales of foreign brands like Toyota, Hyundai, and BMW. Domestic companies only account for a fraction of cars built and sold here.