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    Good luck emigrating unless you can afford those countries that let you buy residency.

    Props to anyone who has successfully moved to another country because eegads that is not an easy or quick process.

    • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world
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      One of my colleagues is a British man who just gained his US citizenship in 2021. He’s been here since 2007 on a marriage visa. And prior to that, he has described the immigration process as “arduous.”

      And getting married is apparently the easy way to get in.

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          Haha, what do you base that on?!

          My experience is the exact opposite. I’m a software engineer at a big tech company, and in this climate even they are unable to sponsor a visa to the US from the UK. Literally anywhere else? Sure, no problem at all, whether it be Europe, Singapore, China, Japan, Egypt, Australia, anywhere we have an office - except America.

          Americans, welcome anywhere! We’ve got two in my team alone this year, and in 5 years they can get permanent residency. I know managers that want me on their team because I built tooling for them, but they’re not allowed to hire me because it would require a visa…

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            David Beckham got treated like royalty and carried into citizenship.

            If you wanna get gay married for citizenship I’m cheap and have fantastic insurance.

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              I’m almost positive that David Beckham isn’t a citizen of the US. That’s almost definitely by choice, given that he’d meet the criteria for investment several times over.

              While I appreciate the offer, I think my wife would probably not be too happy with me taking another lover. 😂

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            I base that on the laws and regulations that the US has for immigration, vs the ones that countries like The UK, Germany, Japan, Canada and Australia have. There are navigable paths to US citizenship for people that don’t have skills that are needed in the US. For many other countries you either have to be rich or skilled to get in. Poor people aren’t welcome. Poor people aren’t exactly welcome in the US either, but they can get in.

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              That’s absolute nonsense. Most countries have similar paths to entry. They also have paths that support specific jobs that are required by the country - something the US does not. Finally, many of them have easy and clear paths to naturalisation - again something the US doesn’t have.

              Just because unskilled nationals make it into your country, it doesn’t mean that immigration in your country is easier than other countries. Every right-winger moans about the same thing in every country you’ve listed…

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              You’re clearly out of your depth. Stop now before you say anything dumber

              Edit: for those unaware the United States has one of the hardest paths to immigration/citizenship in the world.

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      Americans can come to my country with few limitations (Canada), and it shouldn’t be overly hard to get either dual citizenship or to become a Canadian citizen. Our immigration policies are not nearly as strict as other places and we have a gigantic, and mostly undefended border with the USA. Little more than border guards stand in the way, and as long as you’re not a felon, and you have a legitimate reason to enter the country, you’re welcome here.

      We have universal healthcare available to all citizens.

      Once here it’s a matter of getting an employer who will sponsor your work visa… Then it’s a pretty clear path to citizenship from there.

      We’re not super different from the USA. More taxes, no guns. Some other differences. But we’re like… America lite.

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        The news I see over there is that the housing market is even more fucked than the US one, though? Do people mostly rent?

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          We paid over $700k CAD for a ~3000 sq ft home that’s about 20 minute drive from a major city.

          Most places are similar from what I know. A new build up the street from us is asking 1.5m CAD for something much smaller.

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        i’ve been tempted by the prospect of a dual citizenship with canada honestly, not even for the services, i just want to go north and get the fuck away from people lol.

        The no guns thing is kind of cringe, but i could live with it.

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          No guns is a bit of an over simplification.

          You can have guns for hunting, it’s regulated and there’s a bunch of rules surrounding it. But nobody is openly carrying them around Walmart or anything.

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            yeah, i’m not big into hunting frankly, if i did own one it would be for either sport, or personal protection since middle of fucking nowhere.

            Likely not a huge issue, but it’s definitely something to consider being in america already i suppose.

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      It’s all about working for a global company and getting their sponsorship to move out of the US. Working on it currently with my company to take over an APAC team

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      I’ll let anyone buy a Finnish residency. Just pay me a to-be-agreed-upon sum and then we’ll get married and it should be quite a done deal. Perhaps need to keep addresses the same on paper for a few years but that’s it.

      Hit me with them offers.

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            Even before that, we had formidable defence force.

            Just us alone, with EU’s largest artillery, but on top of that, NORDEFCO and the defence clause of the EU.

            But NATO is a bonus yeah.

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          Unless you’re a spy who ran from Russia (and basically not even then, as we have supo), why would that matter?

          Unlike the US, Finland has and continues to successfully avoid Russia meddling in it’s affairs.

          We got labour protection, social security and have among other things, fixed homelessness.

          Yes, there’s a lot of issues as well, but compared to other countries, I’d say the average person is fairly well off in Finland in terms of financial security. Mental health is a whole other matter, though.