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China is BAD if only the silly easterners would listen to the very successful western ultras like myself they would actually be communist!
Oh my bad I thought this was the hexbear news com. /s
If I were Xi, I would simply press the full communism button. All that’s covering it is this thing labeled “dialectical and historical materialism” but that can’t be anything important.
Lol exactly. Theyre literally indistinguishable from fed reddit posters at this point.
Is it that bad over there these days?
Oh yeah https://hexbear.net/post/6233308/6530502 Its bad https://hexbear.net/post/6251000/6536572?sort=Top
I find it crazy that they will ban people for the most childish, petty, stupid shit. Yet will allow blatant wrecker ultras on there with zero pushback.
I’ve been on here long enough to remember when they refederated. It was going to be good because it’s a pro-AES space. Whoops looks like that went out the window quickly!
jesus. I thought there was bad egg in the admin team like a year ago. Now it looks like a full blown trot/fed infestation.
By the way they aint even dunking on china that much they are making very sensical criticisms. like how capitalist spain and italy, by trying to hijack the efforts of the flotilla, are still doing more than china has ever done (which is nothing btw). And for stating that china is profiteering from this genocide and therefore is complicit I got perma’d from the deprogram sub on reddit before it got nuked. My comment got like 30 upvotes too so even the dengists agreed.
I find it crazy that they will ban people for the most childish, petty, stupid shit
Yeah. Dengists do seem to ban people for the pettiest shit.
capitalist spain and italy, by trying to hijack the efforts of the flotilla, are still doing more than china has ever done (which is nothing btw)
Creating infrastructure throughout the Global South, selling weapons and other important goods to the resistance, bypassing US “sanctions” against Iran, etc. is “nothing”? It’s entirely fair to criticize China for still trading with Israel but this is nonsense
What do dengist have to do with anything in this context?
I don’t think it’s correct to say China has done nothing in regards to Palestine. For example, there was the 2024 Beijing Declaration last year. To quote form said linked article
Leaders representing 14 Palestinian factions and forces—including Hamas, Fatah, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP), the Palestinian People’s Party, and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), and others—have resolved to form a national unity government after three days of discussion in Beijing mediated by China’s foreign minister, Wang Yi.
The agreement, called the “Beijing Declaration to End the Division and Strengthen Palestinian National Unity,” is being hailed as a significant step towards unity and overcoming the decades-long division among the main political groups in Palestine. United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres welcomed the Beijing Declaration shortly after its signing and expressed his appreciation for the diplomatic efforts being made by China in facilitating the process.
Outside of that, from reading those threads above, one of the comments someone mentioned how Hamas used a weapon from China like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HJ-8#Gaza_Strip
Another thing to is it’s more besides that, like the Zijiang M99
In Sheikh Aajlin, the Brigades introduced a new sniper rifle for the first time, the M99 anti-material rifle. In a statement, the faction announced that it shot down an Israeli occupation soldier in Sheikh Aajlin with an M99 sniper rifle. It is still unclear whether the rifle is the Chinese-made Zijiang M99 or the Barrett-made M99, however, both rifles have anti-material and long-range capabilities.
It’s really doubtful it’s the barret made M99. To add, from looking around there are two tweets, here and here showing the Zijang M99, and then there a news source talking about it’s use here To add that news source mentions this
The observation worth analyzing in this context is that, coinciding with the “Qassam Brigades” announcement of the use of Chinese weapons in its war against Israel,
We can notice as well that during its war against Israel after the “Al-Aqsa Flood” operation on October 7, 2023, the “Al-Qassam Brigades” announced that its fighters were able to snipe an Israeli soldier with a heavy-caliber “M99” sniper weapon in the “Sheikh Ajlin area” in Gaza City. This is the first announcement from the Al-Qassam Brigades about the use of this deadly Chinese weapon in the Gaza Strip.
Only issue is I’m having trouble finding where that announcement was said? Either way It is clear that they are using weapons from China at the very least.
Do note, I do think China should stop trade with “Israel” but I want to address this. Mainly to go to trade with what China sells from “Israel” where “Israel” buys from China primarily consists of
China primarily exported electric vehicles, mobile phones, computers and metals.
Compared to the United States that
The United States sold Israel explosive munitions, diamonds, electronics and chemical products. Israel receives billions in US military aid, much of which is spent on American-made weapons, effectively boosting US exports.
Either way it’s the United States that trades the most with “Israel” and props it up. Again, this isn’t to say China should continuing trade, it would be nice if they didn’t, but it would not change things too much even if China did stop trade. Since again, “Israel” is propped up by imperial core countries.
Either way it isn’t correct to say China has done none nothing. It would be nice if China did more, sure I can agree with that. However ultimately, the responsibility lies with the people in the global north to do something against their governments to stop contributing to/participating in genocide. Since to go to the United States for example, how many genocides has the United States been involved since it’s conception like against the various First Nations, to around the world like in Latin America? For the United States, genocide won’t end just with Palestine, there will be more in the future if those in the United States don’t decolonize and overthrow the U.S.
Also it is rather chauvinistic and idealistic to paint China as the world’s savior as well, since China will not be the world savior not, and won’t ever be. That just always been idealistic nonsense. To add, it is also chauvinistic to hold China responsible for the U.S-Israel genocide against Palestine. Why should China, and the world, mainly the global south at large, be held responsible for the horrible acts that the global north like the United States commits and not the global north and people within those countries held responsible for those acts instead?
Again that isn’t to say China couldn’t do more, they could, but the fault lies with the global north at the end of the day and for those within to do build and make revolution. Like Che Guevara said “The revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. You have to make it fall.” and revolution is possible within those global north countries.
GOOD post
Bro wht are you yappin about they have the most based takes i have seen
“Ultra is already becoming the new “tankie”, nothing is more harmful to leftist agitations than crypto-trotskyists spewing intellectualized terms into the mainstream.” Lmao its so trueeee. Like you quote Lenin at a dengist who calls you a fucking ultra like grow the fuck up my guy I have talked to many ultras (esp on r*ddit) and they are FUCKING INSUFFERABLE just please do not use slurs like “ultra” at people its very tiring.
Oh my god what is going on has the psyop succeeded? Has the western MLs been fully infiltrated by chinese/russian bots the same way ultras/most anarchists got destroyed by the western lib-bots?
Yeah I’m not reading all of that. China stays winning 🇨🇳 cope and seethe about it.
Has the western MLs been fully infiltrated by chinese/russian bots
Is this a joke?
I find it crazy that they will ban people for the most childish, petty, stupid shit. Yet will allow blatant wrecker ultras on there with zero pushback.
It depends on the context of what is “childish, petty, stupid shit” but generally I have noticed some strange priorities and a bit of a persistent toxicity that seems to end up in fruitless struggle sessions. News thread is still great otherwise, but yeah, you aren’t wrong in that I’ve noticed quite a shift on China recently.
Heh. Gottem.
No, no you fucking tankie China should deploy the entire military to the middle-east and use their export economy to globally project their power across the world on Israel. /s
No, but seriously, as shitty as it sounds; I don’t think China has a responsibility to do anything for Palestine, as grim and horrible as that sounds. They are not a part of the West, they have no colonial ties to Palestine from colonizer nations (meaning, you aren’t from a ex-colonial nation or settler one, etc).
They had no hand in creation or even a historical role in their creation or a part to play if you don’t entirely separate the CPC from the Dynasty periods (as you should). This doesn’t mean they don’t feel great sympathy, nor have solidarity with Palestine. They have done much for them despite being on the other half of the world.
“But they trade with Israel” is such a stupid fucking point when you consider how much of the world is financially and economically connected…especially when they’re an export economy. I don’t like XHS’s posts sometimes but at least he has sense and reason behind the points that he makes.
Any extreme or hostile move trade-wise or economically on a erratic and already hostile United States that is your major import partner could jeopardize the balance and conditions of development that are quite good for China as of now. That is their main focus and has been compared to the very different history of it’s historical past when it’s dynasties used to either imperialize via tributaries or conquest. There’s entire books written about reflections from then and now.
Good post and very succinct way to write this down! 👏
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I’ve got my driver’s license parking exam in 3 days so hopefully that goes well!!
Welcome comrade, and good luck!
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You have to send me an animal video now does are the rules
i haven’t figured out how videos work on this site just yet :') … but here’s my latest fav animal photo instead!
I just link a video from the internet
I see hundreds of people every day and as soon as the weather drops to 10-15 degrees it is a non stop infection risk. Fucking sucks to get sick on a regular basis because of it.
Zinc help, but it must be taken as a preventative measure
Hey everyone, I’m also new so thank you for having me!
There’s a crazy amount of learning when you accept that capitalism doesn’t hold the answers. It’s overwhelming at times, but we must remember that we deserve better and keep going.
What’s the “most communist” image you have on your computer right now?
Mine is this picture of a golden statue of Oh Chi Minh surrounded by gold star on red and hammer and sickle flags:
Probably this attempt someone made at creating a Brazilian communist flag. I think it’s badass.
I’m on my phone currently but probably the flag of the Spartacus League
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It does!
Not an image, but the first communist related media that I found when scrolling through my phone gallery
I don’t have that many communist images on my computer. This is the most communist one I could find
after a short look this is the best I have.
I’d say this is the best I’ve got.
a photo of our toothbrush
So do y’all think the Republican (and to an extent Democratic) politicians are actual Christians or is it just a tool to relate to the masses? Like, do you think they really believe in God and whatever?
As a collective whole? Con artists who don’t believe a word they preach.
As specific individuals? Varies; some are true believers that genuinely think they’re abiding by the will of God, some are frauds who just tell people what they want to hear, some really believe but are ignorant hypocrites who can’t see it.
The parties as parties are charlatans but the individual members of those parties are understandably far more diverse.
Bit of A, bit of B. When it’s such a useful tool for hegemony, even the “true believers” end up swept by that too. They mutually reinforce each other and form a “politician’s Christianity.”
i don’t think “actual Christian” is a meaningful demarcation. There’s no basis to claim one side or the the other of any schism was correct. various christians have wildly different ideaas of what they think god is, even within denominations.
most of them practice american civil religion which is syncretic merging of cultural background radiation jesus and founding fathers worship. A whole bunch of them believe god communicates with them, but that’s on a spectrum from vibes to whatever the hell is wrong with michelle bachman.
I meant more like: are they believers or just atheists doing whatever it takes to be in power. Can’t see Trump actually going to church or praying every night out of his own initiative.
trump seemed concerned about actually going to hell
There are probaly like one or two true believers. There are a few who believe in god and have chosen conciously to be on the devils side. and there are a bunch that just cynically use it as rhetoric.
Already made a post in the freechat community, but want to get some thoughts here as well. I’m currently going through the Prolewiki reading list for beginners, after I finish it I would love to read up on the Russian revolution. Not looking for a massive tome, but something in between being general but not overly specific and dense that I can’t get through in let’s say a month or 2. Thanks!
Red Star over the 3rd World by Vijay Prashad? Might or might not be what your looking for but I think its worth a read. Don’t know if you can get it for free though.
Crazy to think there’s a guy in one of those shipping containers who is rich enough to bend light
What’s the best way to read Gramsci in English? He’s not on marxists.org and I’ve never found another way to read the prison notebooks for free. Buying isn’t an option where I live.
I can’t comment on the quality, but you can find translations of his prison notebooks on Anna’s Archive
Thank you!
I’m not quite sure how to word this but I got threatened at the place I work at.
It’s weird, because I can’t quite say that it was a direct threat.
Basically what happened is that two kids walked into the store asking for a lighter. Age restriction. I don’t give a fuck and actually give them some recommendations on some places that could possibly serve the needs they want in terms of a 2 dollar fucking bic lighter. Instead, they beg me for it, before asking me if I heard of what happened to the neighboring 7/11.
Mind you, the neighboring 7/11 got raided by multiple kids ranging from the age of 14-20. Ironic number, because I know one of the ones who is a regular who is 20 that is obviously connected to the two that came in later.
The two asked me if I heard of “Lee” who got his head cracked with a vase at the counter. I promise you, genuinely, because I thought they were shooting the shit after me telling them about the neighboring places that they could get “goods” from (oh shit, fed activity), I responded by showing them my 10 inch karambit and telling them I wasn’t worried about it. (didn’t flick it/show blade, didn’t try to brandish it as in “hey I’ll hurt you”, just simply like “hey i’m good, no worries”)
It wasn’t until they left immediately after “brandishing” that I realized they were trying to threaten me with that 7/11 comment. I genuinely had no idea. Now, I wonder if I should get a autism diagnosis. Only because I asked two people who came in afterwards if it sounded like a threat and they agreed. What do you all think? I honestly feel like an asshole for “brandishing” a weapon towards some kids who were literally talking about someone cracking a head at the neighboring gas station and me showing that I can defend myself; not even in a “fuck you way” but like “hey, I"m alright”.
I dunno, do I get a lawyer after this?
Nah dude I think yer fine. They wont tell anyone you threatened them because snithces get stitches. They are gonna tell the other kids that they shouldn’t fuck around while you are on shift.
In their eyes you didn’t even flinch when they were threatening you. You basically told them you are prepared to open a clown up without acting like you cared one way or another. They think you are cold as ice.
lol that’s awesome, wasn’t tryna go john-wick. I appreciate the insight tho.
was hoping they weren’t rich-shits.
I hope you all have a nice week :D
You too, Oppo!! ^_^
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Das lied vom Kompromiss by Ernst Busch is a goofy ass song.
Lol, yes it is, i bet people who don’t speak German and try to read a translation are very confused. But it’s still frighteningly accurate and applicable to present day German politics, just replace Ebert with Scholz. Written in 1919 but sounds like it’s talking about the Groko of the 2010s or the Ampel.
Vladimir Putin tried to sell me some drones behind the Albert Heijn
Someone’s gotta do something about him! I caught my kid with a hypersonic missile the other day and he wouldn’t tell me where he got it but I just know it was that good for nothing Putin.
Tomorrow I’ll be going at a local news radio to talk about “religious freedom in China”. I think I’ve prepared well, but any extra material is very welcome.
Hey, here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsCaI-gsA29xVYzFI-kYWLcx2QhowNBCL
Here is a list to things you might need:
I found YouTube links in your comment. Here are links to the same videos on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Link 1:
Link 2:
Link 3:
Link 4:
Qiao Collective has a whole set of resources if you go to the topleft corner of the page, click it, and search around or use the search bar in the website:
https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/socialism-with-chinese-characteristics
I wish you good luck. Moments like that might be important to whomever is listening.
This post might help a lot -> https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9155093
Basically, the post might help to add to the point that China wants to keep religion within healthy boundaries and prosecutes dangerous practices that will hurt people(such as the US evangelicals selling blessings for 1 000 USD).