The only slight parallel that can be drawn is between Gaza and the Donbass Republics. Ukraine attempted to cut off Donetsk and Lugansk (as well as Crimea but the Russians were able to resolve the problems there fairly quickly) from access to water, electricity, pensions, banking, etc. They also held these republics under siege since 2014, and continue to constantly shell civilians almost every day. But that is where the parallels stop as the situation for Gaza is infinitely worse in every respect. The Donbass had all of Russia behind them and could never be completely cut off, they were much better armed and dispersed over a larger area. And now they have received the direct help of a very powerful military and are able to fight and win a conventional conflict. The people of Gaza have none of these advantages, they will have to continue to rely on highly asymmetric tactics and guerilla warfare. And the civilian losses will be orders of magnitude higher than in Ukraine where the Russians have been extremely cautious.

I think while the situation in Ukraine is starting to look very optimistic and we may see a positive resolution as soon as next year, the situation in occupied and besieged Palestine is much more difficult for the foreseeable future. It will be a brutal, prolonged struggle and it will be very painful to watch. Do not expect a quick victory. There will be many tragedies and losses along the way, we have to steel ourselves for setbacks and news of horrific atrocities committed by the Zionist entity, but in the end i have faith that the forces of the Resistance will prevail. The global balance of power has changed too much and it has changed irreversibly against the US. Both the US and the Zionist entity are weaker than they have ever been in the entire history of the Palestinian conflict. The Resistance did not fail to take notice of this and to take it into account when they chose to make their move with this daring break out which has escalated the conflict to a new and unprecedented phase. They have allies across the region and they have surely planned, coordinated and prepared to wage this struggle and to come out victorious.

I am also not convinced that executing the POWs will help, but that being said i think you’re overestimating the degree to which international opinion has any ability to impact this conflict whatsoever. It has been clear for a while now that neither the occupation regime nor its international allies care to mask their brutality anymore. They are not concerned about what anyone else thinks because they believe no one can do anything to stop them. And frankly i think at this point Palestinians just don’t and can’t afford to care anymore about the optics of their struggle either. It is life and death for them and they have to do whatever it takes to survive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_traveller

I have said this before but for all the reactionary aspects of US society there is still an element there that is quite a bit more radical than we have here in Europe. This partly has to do with the brutal hyper-capitalism having created material conditions for the bottom of society that are relatively worse in the US than in Europe’s social democratic welfare states. There is an interesting contradiction in that the US simultaneously has some of the worst reactionary tendencies due to its settler colonial nature and history, as well as its role as the center of world imperialism, but also one of the populations that is potentially most easily radicalizable among the nations of the imperial core. In Europe the absence of a social base that is as rife for radicalization as the indigenous and black communities in the US, for which current material conditions and historical injustices align to produce a real revolutionary subject, and with European countries having much more homogenous populations there is much less potential for development of revolutionary consciousness. Notable exceptions do exist such as in Ireland or Serbia, in the case of the former due to their specific history of anti-imperialist struggle and for the latter their recent experiences being directly victimized by imperialist aggression, though unfortunately both of these countries are currently governed by neoliberal sellouts.

I don’t know what you’re talking about, hearing the DPRK shit on US imperialism is music to my ears.

I was pondering this just yesterday how these two conflicts are together the ultimate litmus test for identifying who is and who isn’t a principled anti-imperialist. Because there are some radlibs who support Palestine but not Russia, and there are some conservatives who support Russia but not Palestine. So far it seems to me out of all groups Marxist-Leninists and fellow travelers have been the most principled anti-imperialists on both issues.

I’m sure we will see similar dynamics if and when other conflicts break out around the world. For instance i expect yet more filtering out of opportunists from principled anti-imperialists when the US starts a conflict with either Iran or China.

This is what real resistance looks like. Deal with it! This made no one hate them who didn’t already secretly hate them. We all know the westerners who now cry crocodile tears either never lifted a finger to stop the daily brutality inflicted on Palestinians for decades, or made no secret of openly hating Palestinians to begin with.

And i’ll let you in on a secret: Palestinians simply no longer care what western crackers think. Because they have already done everything humanly possible to try to curry sympathy, to try and get the world to see them as human beings, and it has done jack shit for them. It has brought their liberation not one step closer, it has only gotten worse and people like you allowed it.

So if they are going to be murdered no matter what they might as well go out fighting their oppressor. They do not owe it to you to fight their liberation struggle according to your hypocritical morals. You only pretend to care about Palestinians when they are getting slaughtered, when they are being the perfect victims, now that they are fighting back you have shown your true face for everyone to see.

“Israel” cannot exist without said oppression. For all intents and purposes defending their existence is defending their system of apartheid and genocide, and vice versa. And the western supporters of “Israel” know this, which is why they fully support its brutality.

Just my opinion: this is an awful idea and a death sentence for discipline. Imo the opposite needs to happen.

And yet even this lackluster and corrupt implementation of a state led industrial model is still more than enough to beat hyper-financialized neoliberalism.

You scratched some libs.

Illegal settlers contribute in equal part to the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians as their armed forces do. The military oppresses and kills the indigenous people and the settlers come in to replace them, to steal their homes and their land. The armed occupation forces cannot be disentangled from the settler population, they are two sides of the same coin.

Armed resistance to apartheid, oppression, occupation and genocide is a fundamental and inalienable human right. The oppressed are not obligated to obey your rules of conduct or your morality in their fight against their oppressor. Palestinian civilians are killed and kidnapped every day by the occupier, where is the international outrage and condemnation for that which has been happening for decades to the Palestinians?

And how can they call the same settlers who just days prior were busy storming the holiest places of the Palestinians innocent bystanders? When settlers themselves often pick up arms against Palestinians when they want to evict them from their homes, and form up in lynch mobs to go and terrorize Palestinian neighborhoods and smash their shops.

And with compulsory military service to the “IDF” is it not these very same “civilians” who have been - and with call-ups of reservists will in the future again be - soldiers for the occupation army?

Absolutely right. It has never been more transparently clear than it is today that social democracy is just the left wing of fascism.

And yet even with all of what you pointed out there is still more support for Palestinians in North America than there is in Germany. Perhaps the rest of Europe is better, i know Ireland definitely is, but in Germany it is catastrophic. It is almost illegal to express support for the cause of Palestine here, you can get in serious trouble if you call Israel an apartheid state, and most of the “left” with the sole exception of communists parrots the same “Israel has a right to exist and defend itself line”.

Great minds think alike!

It’s only free if you don’t consider the fact that the rest of the world pays for it. The US can create money out of thin air without negative consequences to themselves, but only because they offload those consequences onto everyone who uses the dollar as reserve currency and settlement of international trade.

This will no longer be possible to do once that global financial hegemony is eroded. Then the US will finally have to pay for its own lunch.

The western “left” are nine of ten settler-descent.

In North America and Australia yes, but the term settler does not apply in Europe for the most part, however i would argue that in Europe it’s worse than just the settler chauvinism exhibited in the overseas colonies, they are out and out Euro supremacists in much of the European left.

The vast majority of social democrats i know (and most people here are some flavor of social democrat) have the exact same mentality as expressed by EU chief Borrel: “we are the garden they are the jungle”. In fact a lot of Europeans even view the colonial nations like the US as being half part of that jungle, not quite barbarian but not truly civilized either.

European leftists make fun of the US for not having our social safety nets even while ours are crumbling around us. They are aghast at the US police killing black people with impunity, but they seem oblivious to how Europe is murdering African migrants by the hundreds as they attempt to cross the Mediterranean.

They point out with a smug feeling of superiority how racist Americans are, and then mere minutes later when the topic of the Romani people comes up they will sound like Adolf Hitler. They will decry how horribly warmongering the US is but then call for rearmament and war with Russia in the next breath.

I completely concur with what the comrade above said.

“Oh boo hoo, poor me, it’s so hard to experience for one day what Palestinians in Gaza have been experiencing every single day of the year for decades…”

This is war! You just don’t like it when the tables are turned on you, when you can’t just enjoy watching from a safe distance while Palestinians are getting slaughtered and virtue signal some bullshit about how sorry you feel for them but how violence is still never the answer.

Libs mad.