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  • Not every discussion about rules ends with citing immigrants. Immigrants are relevant here – see the article – and the rules that exist favour either rich immigrants or people with citizenship.

    In this situation the immigrants (the Britons) were able to stay in Sweden exactly because UK was in the EU and then there were rules about this. Also a lot of people was forced to left UK for the same reason.

    And migrants do make the world go round, look at doctors, people working in industry and so on.

    I would like to discuss about this, if what you say would be true we would not have rise from all the parties that say to send them back. Now we can discuss about legal Vs illegal immigrants but I don’t think we could agree.

    All of that is after the fact. After murders have happened. Murderers know they will be punished harshly and do it anyway. The interesting question is how to prevent murders without strictly relying on harsh punishments since that is something murders factor in…

    Would you commit a murder if you would be **sure ** to be caught, put in prison cell 2x2 meters and never ever exit, not even for 1 hour a day, until you die ?
    Or, let’s take a lighter crime: would you park your car in a no parking zone if you would be sure to be fined every time you do it ?

    The problem is not how harsh is the punishment but how sure you are to be punished: you can have a death sentence for murder but if your probability to be caught is 1% it is not a deterrent.

    So you do recognise rules are forced upon subjects by an authority, in this case the state.

    Yes, and it is necessary.

    I assume you are not a state servant or business owner, do you also recognise that the state wants to squeeze you of every ounce of labour so that it can do its deed to perpetuate its system of class rule? It’s hens OKing the fox guarding the hen house.

    No. Simply because even if I am currently not a state servant or business owner (but I was both of them) there is nothing that stop me from being one once I had the prerequisites (for being a state servant) or I want to start a business.

    Society is not merely a set of rules. Society is made up of relations between people and physical infrastructure such as housing and workplaces. What you think of as rules are at best for edge cases. Most people don’t go about their day thinking about rules, those who do are a small minority which most would generally label bean counters. You have a highly idealistic conception of why things work.

    Maybe but I am pretty sure that if there was not a set of rules then society as we intend it would fall in a very short time frame.

    Relationships between people work once the people know that if the do something wrong there is some sort of punishment, else it would become something like “the strongest rules” very fast.

    Actually, no those who voted did not understand the consequences.

    It is not an EU problem, it is their problem. Why we should try to solve a problem they created for themself.
    Beside the fact that in my opinion UK voter understand very well what the possible consequences would be, they simply choose to belive that they were in a position to impose their will.

    To understand the consequences you would need to spend time that most people don’t have because they work. Nationalistic thinktanks that position themselves against German (and French) competition pour a bunch of money into campaigns that say the UK will be paradise after Brexit and the people lap it up. Not that this is the thing that brought us Brexit, there was a nationalistic sentiment that existed before Brexit was even a concept. This has a logic, and it has very little to do with rigorously rational voting.

    True. But what you are saying is that UK was so full of itself that they think that EU would beg to them to make treaties at their (UK) conditions.
    Unfortunately for them it was (and is) not true.

    But yeah, what you are saying, about needing to follow rules and whatnot, is exactly the same thing someone killings others for the military would say. “I need to follow the rules because if I don’t something bad happens or something”

    No. Killing in a war has rules too. And a soldier can refuse to follow and order.
    True, you follow orders but if the order is unlawfull you must refuse to follow it, since the “I was following the orders” defence does not work.



  • But in the world we live in, this is sadly not the case and we must stick to the rules that the people have agreed to.
    

    Who says we must?

    To be polite to others?

    F the rules, it’s not like it’s in the interest of those who actually make the world go round. Immigrants for example.

    Why every discussion about rules need to end with citing immigrants ?

    The rules in this case are, the people of Britain have voted to leave the EU and all its benefits, so these new rules must be followed.
    

    There was a poll about the death penalty some time ago in an EU country. The majority of those polled were in favour of the death penalty. Does the death penalty prevent murders?

    Obviously not, death penalty alone would not work if you are pretty sure to not be caught.
    What you really need is to be sure that if you break the law there will be a penalty, and a hard one if you commit a murder.

    No it doesn’t. It’s just another terrorist tool that the populace OKs to have used upon itself in certain cases.

    Like every penalty if you think about it.

    Your logic is exactly the same of following orders and denouncing undesirables.

    No. Following the rules is the base for a society to be functional.
    Beside, when UK decide to leave the EU, they know very well what the consequences would be, they simply choose to ignore them, or they were convinced that the UK could have imposed their conditions on EU.



  • Why would you want to put the onus of proving something illegal was done on the victims?

    Because someone is innocent until proven guilty maybe ?

    Banning pervert glasses solves the problem at the root. Plus it’s orders of magnitude more easy to prove someone wore them than proving something illegal was done with them.

    Maybe, but this way you ban them also in situation where they could be usefull.
    In a way you are punishing a technology instead of the people making bad use of it.



  • I would personally focus on the current policies of the left wing, with poverty as a consequence.

    If we look at the situation without prejudices we would clearly see that the far right begin to rise in Europe (with various degree) when the left started to ignore the common people’s problems, if not making them worse.

    It is not logical to think that people were right extremist but somehow never voted for a far right party (or a far right party was never founded to get these votes). True, in 10/15 years there is a change in the demogaphy but it is not a long enough time frame to have a radical change.

    What happened is that people voted as usual, then the ruling parties (most from the left) decided to adopt policies that make life worst for almost everyone and when they ignored the people complain about them if not calling them stupid and ignorant, the same people then started to vote for someone who at least listen to them with the hope that the problem would be solved, paving the way to AfD rise in Germany and people like Vannacci in Italy




  • Assuming full technical responsibility would probably make most AI-generated code pointless, as the whole point of using AI this way is that generating code saves work. Which is not any more the case if the result is really fully reviewed.

    When you submit code that you write you take responsibility for it, irregardless of the tools you use. AI generated code should not be different in this aspect.
    You can use AI to generate code but you should review it anyway, at least at the basic level to make sure that it does not contain obvious bugs and do what it is supposed to do.

    The other thing is there is no way one can declare AI generated code safely free of copyright isses. You’d need to prove that the result code was not contained in the training data - which is not possible.

    Which itself should make people to avoid to use AI generated code for anything else than playing around.


  • When companies are not able to produce enough to satisfy demand and are actively stopping selling to certain sectors and harming them, they should lose their patents.

    Except they stop selling to certain sectors because these sectors pay less. I am pretty sure that if a laptop maker ask to buy the RAM at a 50% higher price than AI companies, the RAM producer will happily sell to them.

    RAM companies are actively harming all of us by selling their products to the AI companies and leaving us all without RAM, so we should encourage alternatives.

    And how do you plan to keep these alternatives from selling to the higher bidder, which will probably be a AI company ?