that’s not true. It’s also very region and dealer specific. some dealers will do msrp others want an ADM especially if you’re in a hot market like LA. Even with that a base, S, T, GTS can be had for close to sticker, even turbo and turbo S. Its the GT cars which are 50 or 60 over but you don’t need to know anyone, just have money. The way I see it is you have to pay an entry fee. You get a 911, maybe pay a little over but that car will hold its value and when you want to get a GT car you trade in for minimal loss. Now that you have a relationship with a dealer they will lower the ADM or maybe not charge at all because they know they will make money on your trade.

“Absolutely not. Second, maybe. Or third. Part of me does wish it were edgier—permanently rear-driven, lighter, louder, less insulation between my hands and the road—but, as it sits, this Boy Scout can throw down.”

You just described a 911. I love the first gen AMG GT but didn’t get one because it wasn’t practical for me without a rear seat. I saw spy photos of this and got really excited esp with the addition of a rear seat I thought the rest would be the same or better. I still don’t understand the difference between this an and SL. To me the 911 922 is still perfect, lighter, less digital with that stupid iPad in the middle, and I can get it with rear wheel drive and a manual.