killing all of wikipedia is gunna be almost impossible, theres probably millions of backups around the world. here’s a few links to download it, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dump_torrents, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download
I did already, tried the XOWA client to run a local copy on my PC. Wasn’t as easy as I hoped but it worked.
Planning to get a couple of USBs stashed away with full copies of Wikipedia and the reader app for knowledge security. You can fit the whole thing with a working installation onto a 128GB USB or less. My install dir was about 69GB total.
additionally not everyone considers to backup the actual software used to compress/decompress the data. that isn’t permanent either and could disappear as well, same as wikipedia rendering such backups useless.
granted, it’s like, 10000x less likely than the already unlikely event of wikipedia being raptured. but the datahoarder mindset is better safe than sorry…
USB sticks will lose the data after a couple of years of not being powered
To add to that, and to make it easier for some, you can use Kiwix!
but can it run on an ipod 🧐
(actually a pretty cool video btw)
Not only that, but MediaWiki is FOSS, and all existing content on all Wikimedia Foundation (except for a relative few kept on fair use grounds) is at most as restrictive as CC BY-SA 4.0. So you’d have whatever exists on Wikipedia currently (plus Wiktionary, Wikimedia Commons, Wikispecies, etc., keeping in mind too that there are many Wikipedias besides English) plus the software that interacts with that data, other countries which haven’t fully descended into fascism, the members of the Wikimedia Foundation, a bunch of pissed-off editors, and a pissed-off public… I think a new, substantially similar non-profit would crop up in the UK etc., and very few things would have to change about the content that’s on the platform (where the UK has more restrictive speech laws).
Does it matter? History only matters if actions in the now are justified by interpretations of the past.
Thanks to the internet, we have instant access to the experience of billions of people. All human experience is already there and doesn’t have to be approximated by history.
That’s a very uneducated take, and shows that you don’t understand how access to information can be changed, and modeled to elicit certain outcomes.
Unbiased, well cited repositories of information are essential.
I agree, for the way our societies are structured.
My point is that we could organize us in a way that history could provide additional depth but that the essential decisions could be made as well without the knowlege of history.
That “could” is doing a lot of work for that premise. We are currently structured as an amalgam of disparate chains of systems interacting with each other in loosely defined ways.
If you want to take the ability of sovereign entities to self determine, then sure we “could” organize in this other way.
But we don’t have a god emperor of earth, so we will need to rely on this loose consensus instead of a dictated one.
Why does it have to be dictated? People can freely organize in a democratic way.
The problem is that people may join just because it is better, without fully supporting the respect towards others that is needed in such a system.
Things don’t happen that way. “Can, may, could” means that there will be pockets of people that don’t subscribe to the ideology and undermine it.
That’s the challenge. I still believe that it is possible.
Alright, thanks for confirming my opinion.
And yet, despite having instant access to the Internet you write this utter bullshit. “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
“And those who have no ethics will learn more sophisticated ways to do abhorrent things ftom the past”
Remembering the past is not a good thing nor is it a bad thing, it is only a powerful tool for the advancement of knowledge.
The past doesn’t tell you what to do, especially not when your recordings of history are wrong. If you cannot trust your history, how are you going to make decisions?
The problem is:
So many of those voices are idiots.
So if you can get enough idiots to say something, it kind of becomes the truth.
So we need software that enhances the voices of those who we want to hear.
Good luck with that, Ai is funded to do the opposite.
Also, what we want to hear isn’t always what we should hear.
Maga is hearing 100% what they want to hear, there is a large section of the country who want nothing more than to hate loudly and proudly.
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Wait surely there’s someone using ai to edit wiki articles? Is that a thing?
Start downloading comrades
There are a lot of citations to things like Britannica from 1911 that is archived and public domain.
Download the Downloader / Viewer at https://kiwix.org/.
Get your own backed up copy and keep it on a thumb drive.
Better fucking not. Wikipedia is my life bruh.
You can’t kill Wikipedia. MediaWiki is free software. If hosting in the US proves to be too hostile, the foundation can either pack up and host elsewhere, and even if they don’t, anyone else can easily host their own Wikipedia as well.
I’m not here to be a doomer but bet neutrality was murdered.
You can download Wikipedia to your computer. It’s big but it’s not an unreasonable download size. Many people have backed it up already!
It’s very unlikely to disappear without someone having a copy.
First of all, they aren’t going to kill Wikipedia.
Second, Wikipedia isn’t even close to being the only place to get your history. There’s this neat little place called a fucking library. You can go there for free.
-Elon has repeatedly stated he wants to defund and shut down all nonprofits that upset him. This includes the ACLU and Wikipedia
-DOGE has already started cuts to public libraries and many are being shut down or greatly reduced hoirs/access/materials/etc
It would be awesome if people like you had some intellectual humility instead of coping with hubris. It’s a fucking issue that our admin and many fellow Americans are ushering in an anti-intellectual dark ages.
chill the fuck out, doomer. Wikipedia has enough cash on hand to survive for the next several decades, even if Trump takes away their non-profit status. he can throw a fit about them all he wants, the absolute worst case scenario here is they just move offices to somewhere in Europe.
As of 2025, the English Wikipedia has 63,040,591 pages. The current text content in all its pages is about 156 GB in size. When counting all the revisions in histories, the size is 26,455 GB (26 TB).
I’m sure many people have already archived this at the least. Or snapshots, at a minimum. Not sure if that’s uncompressed, but if so, compression would save a shitload of that.
That’s uncompressed, the compressed archive is just over 102GB. And yes, you can download the entirety of Wikipedia as a single archive, and they tell you how on Wikipedia itself. The easiest way is probably Kiwix.
And not just the whole thing, either, you can download specific topics, or the top 100 articles, or the whole thing in simple English without pictures, etc.
The 102GB includes pictures then? That’s insane.
I honestly don’t know, I’ve only downloaded the archive with the simple English articles and no pictures. that was only like 900mb or so. I imagine there’s some sort of image optimization that’s done on all images uploaded to the site. And when you think about it, most articles don’t actually have images with them. So the 102gb might be the whole thing.
I can say for sure that the archive does include at least some images, because it says it does. I do plan on downloading it at some point so I can make a local mirror of Wikipedia with my Raspberry Pi, but I haven’t bought a drive for it yet and don’t want to use one of the ones I have now for it because I have Ventoy and a bunch of ISOs on it.
Gee, love hearing that during the active coup of the world order and democracy by BRICS and their stopges. That kinda makes you on their side, and a gaslighting piece of shit.
https://newrepublic.com/post/192854/elon-musk-doge-police-independent-nonprofit-usip
Look - he can just tell the cops to arrest the leaders. He can just take it. That’s what he is doing and has done. He can asset forfeiture their funds if accessible to him or allied (to him) nations. Our laws are collapsing beneath us. He can do what he wants because he is owned by Russia and by extension BRICS. He has to do as they say and he fears them more. He doesnt have to obey our laws. He has to obey Putin and Xi.
Absolute worst case scenario in 2016 is that they’d move offices. Get with the times - we have a genocidal, demented leader who signs whatever people tell him to because he is owned by foreign governments. He sold us out for money and to avoid prison. It’s literally what is occurring. Doomerism implies a future thing that could be negative- he is already interfering with and seizing nonprofits. Thats reality.
trump can’t do shit as long as people keep fighting him. doesn’t matter how many people he throws in prison or lines up against the wall, we beat fascism to a bloody pulp once before and we’ll do it again. I’m sorry if you’re so depressed about what’s happening that you’ve lost your will to fight, but take a breather if you need to because the rest of us have your back and will take over while you get better.
wikipedia is gonna live a lot longer than trump will, and there will come a day very soon when we’re dancing in the streets while he’s being laid to rest in the cold, hard ground. and no amount of MAGA bullshit or pessimism from people who have given up is gonna change that future.
What exactly has ever happened to Trump? When has he EVER gotten a consequence in actual proportion to what he’s done?
You know where I heard this before? “The Mueller Report.” And before the 2024 election. “Trump can’t. He’ll be stopped.” Historically, he hasn’t, and he has multiple foreign governments and their intelligence agencies aiding him and attacking US people on our own soil and disappearing them to El Salvador.
I’m glad you’re so willing to risk their lives while you do nothing but deny our present reality and suck on your grandpa’s teets from WW2. You aren’t him. For starters, he probably didn’t deny that Hitler was seriously fucking things up.
we beat fascism to a bloody pulp once before and we’ll do it again
You cant even acknowledge that he may seize fascist control of Wikipedia lol. You’re weak mentally, you aren’t going to war against anything. We can all see that. The men in this country are the most shameful, disappointing, pathetic things I’ve ever witnessed.
you’ve lost your will to fight, but take a breather if you need to because the rest of us have your back and will take over while you get better
No, you won’t, and I won’t stop informing and fighting. None of you even understand what BRICS is. I have had a write up since DECEMBER accurately detailing what’s happening and Ive been CORRECT on all of it, including telling people IN DECEMBER he was going to deport US citizens to El Salvador. I was told this same shit you’re saying now then, and again, I HAVENT BEEN WRONG, YOU FUCK, AND I HAVE BEEN TIRELESSLY TYPING ON MULTIPLE APPS TO INFORM PEOPLE SO THEY DONT DIE.
PLEASE, EAT SHIT, COWARD.
Normally I would just mock you by pointing out that liberals stay in the tweets while leftists get out on the streets, but you’re obviously suffering from mental illness and I don’t think it’s very nice to make fun of people who are clearly having a mental breakdown, judging by your totally normal reaction.
As for BRICS, IDK why you even brought that up, but two of the biggest members are having active border clashes with each other, a third has depleted their conventional army due to their strategic genius in Ukraine, and two others want to fuck off and have nothing to do with any of the rest. But sure, instead of accepting that Trump is a symptom of the inherently flawed system WE built here in the United States, let’s just blame the most dysfunctional Wish.com EU knock-off trade partnership in the world cause that’s easier and we get to pretend our own shit doesn’t stink.
Also, hey @antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com, turns out it’s uh checks notes BRICS that’s censoring Wikipedia to convince you not to drink your own pee.
Yup, bunch of totally normal people in these comments.
Why did I bring up BRICS? Lol, exactly. It all hinges on BRICS making a new currency and to do that, they must topple Western currency, especially USD. To topple USD, you must harm the stock market/commodities (done with tariffs), you must hurt the bond market (currently working on it), and you must collapse real estate (working on it last). They have 2/3 approaching completion, with China dumping bonds (because they planned it). They also need to siphon our gold away from us (which is why Elon and Trump want access to Fort Knox and national parks/forests) so we can’t gave any wealth when gold-backed BRICS currency drops. BRICS is literally called “gold bricks” in China.
two of the biggest members are having active border clashes with each other
Who?
a third has depleted their conventional army due to their strategic genius in Ukraine
And guess what, China is sending and has sent North Korean soldiers and weapons to them to help them.
and two others want to fuck off and have nothing to do with any of the rest
Who?
They all very much want the US to not have control of their markets or money and have been fighting a very sophisticated war. All of your ad hominems dont change the very real and specific actions these governments have done to:
- collapse western finances, as is their stated goal since formed in 2008
- accrue the commodities that BRICS currency will be backed by, mainly gold
- interfere with global elections, with protests in Romania, Georgia, Serbia, Slovakia, and others
- make every policy Trump puts out benefit them. Literally every single one benefits a BRICS nation at some level, including renaming Gulf of Mexico and claiming it, which then gives CHINA more validity to claim the South China Sea. Trump is their foil, their scapegoat, to ramp up WW3 so they can say it wasnt their fault.
Oh and btw your ableism is a Nazi thing, maybe stop with that. I’ll be sure to forget about you, disgusting coward, but in a few months you’ll sure be remembering me. Good luck.
I think you misunderstood. The terminally ill cancer patient is getting urine salts from cancer free individuals. Nowhere on Wikipedia did anybody claim a benefit from the drinking of one’s own urine. Leave that to the alchemists.
they’re trying to kill PBS. NPR.
Anything to prevent an informed public.
They want to make us all like their voting base in the south.
Inbred, ignorant and hateful.
books exist
Not for long
I mean every historical source is full of one sided propaganda.
Have you ever heard the phrase “history is written by winners”?
What have keep history alive is not Wikipedia. Is the fact that multiple people from multiple POV write things down and we can find and read multiple sources.
Don’t get me wrong, Wikipedia is great, but it’s not what keeps history more or less accurate. Take into account that Wikipedia is a sum up of other sources. In order to write to Wikipedia you must quote a primary source.
And AI really doesn’t have much to do with anything here. Bad sources have existed forever, since Herodotus.
You can dowload wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download
here’s the torrent: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dump_torrents#English_Wikipedia
like 20gb when packed, ~90 when unpackedAlso archive.org, idk which one to seed that personally fits my limited storage space, so i’ll just link the category, https://archive.org/details/wikimediadownloads
there’s also this, but idk about it, just listing options🤷♀️ https://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/latest/
*just in case someone thinks its suspicious: they were all linked directly from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download under the “Where do I get the dumps?” section
Thank you so much for this. I have been trying to offline Wikipedia for months but the torrent links on the kiwix site are broken or something. They stall out for me in the first 10m everytime. The download from your link is working perfectly.
It’s not going to be much use to you if you don’t have a parser, though there are html dumps somewhere iirc.
Kiwix will parse the en_all .zim file just fine… I’ve got and tested it at this point, the issue I was having is that I couldn’t get Kiwix’s own link to successfully download the file.
Who are “they”?
Tech bros like musk who capture companies to gut them.
But Wikipedia isn’t a company. It’s a non-profit foundation.
Yes, and Musk this year said he would defund and potentially disband (for being “terrorist orgs”) any nonprofit he didnt like. He was kind of meaning the ACLU at the time but it includes Wikipedia too potentially for the disbanding part
