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    David Perdue not the worst option. Former politician, former CEO of Reebok. At least it’s a businessman and not a Xenophobe, any aggression between the US and China I think will be very squarely not his fault.

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    Including Cory Booker… 🤷‍♂️ 🙄

    Was everything he did recently just as performative as with MAGAts??

    Way to put up roadblocks and speedbumps when it really counts Dems… Feckless Fucks. 🖕 🖕

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      Keep that energy, know your enemies, all of them.

      Never forget, next time they do a performance remember!

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      Yes it was! And please look in folks’ comment histories, the tankies were the first ones to call this out.

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      No shit it was. He wants to run for president and he knows that stunt will make headlines but this will be buried in comments where the headline is “16 democrats vote for trump nominee” (aka exactly what is happening here)

      Booker is classic neoliberal, no ethics or morals, guided by money and power. 10-15 years ago he was deeply in the pocket of the pharmaceutical industry because they are huge in NJ. Then his aspirations went higher and he realized that association was harmful, at that point he had connections that made him no longer reliant on their cash, so he shed them. It’s not growth, it’s a calculated move

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        I had hoped he was going for redemption. Feckless moron doesn’t have a snowballs chance in hell of being president

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        I recall that he was also in favor of charter schools, which made him non-viable for me years ago.

        I hoped that maybe he had a real change of heart last month, but I guess that was just a publicity stunt.

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      Of course it was. It was just a political stunt to pump up his street cred as a warrior, in advance of an eventual announcement for a presidential campaign.

      Then he votes for the MAGA Nazis.

      He’s a collaborator.

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      so blocking the appointment of the U.S. ambassador to China, in a vote they can’t win looking at the numbers, helps the revolution how?

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        Because its not about winning, its about taking a stand.

        You don’t give NAZI TRAITORS a single vote of support for ANYTHING. They are Nazis, they are the most corrupt and treasonous administration in American history, and any support is collaboration, even a single vote.

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            It gets taken as far as required to crush MAGA, bring their treasonous, corrupt leaders to justice, and purge MAGA from our government, society, and the world.

            MAGA is literally the same as the German Nazis of the 30s and 40s, and they will be operating death camps, just like their heros. They are already building a camp in Guantanamo Bay to hold 30,000 people, out of the sight of the media and the courts. They’ll send foreigners to El Salvador, but they’ll send Americans to Gitmo.

            Are we supposed to wait until they have killed millions, and have people say “Gee, why didn’t someone stop them before it got that far?”

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    You DONT Understand! They COULDNT do ANYTHING except Vote to Confirm because they NEED Donations!

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    Anybody really know politics in detail and can explain their motive?

    Are they afraid of retaliation in some form? What’s the rub?

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    One day people are going to realize this is just theatre. It’s a club with predetermined decisions, similar to WWE. None of them give a fuck about you.

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        Vote blue so much that they have to keep passing progressive reform like the always do when blue wins. They made the rules, all we need to do is make them play by them.

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          Nothing tells them to listen to your damands like just giving them more if they do the opposite of your demands.

          This sounds like an abused spouse that is saying “just give him more love and he will change. He said he will. I just have to love him more. The bruises arent that bad. He didnt mean it.”

          And like the abuser they are, the Democrats immediately turned on minorities whose loyalty they took for granted. They went racist against Latinos and Muslims, proving that they never cared to begin with.

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            You ask them to paint and take away their pigments and canvas. You display the result as proof that they’re no artist at all.

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          Vote blue so much that they have to keep passing progressive reform like the always do when blue wins.

          If this is how you characterize the biden administration, you’re expecting people to be too easily content.

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    Cory Booker—New Jersey

    Chris Coons—Delaware

    Tammy Duckworth—Illinois

    John Fetterman—Pennsylvania

    Ruben Gallego—Arizona

    Maggie Hassan—New Hampshire

    Tim Kaine—Virginia

    Andy Kim—New Jersey

    Angus King—Maine (independent who caucuses with Democrats)

    Amy Klobuchar—Minnesota

    Gary Peters—Michigan

    Jack Reed—Rhode Island

    Jacky Rosen—Nevada

    Jeanne Shaheen—New Hampshire

    Elissa Slotkin—Michigan

    Mark Warner—Virginia

    shamelessly copied off the article

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    Imagine being a liberal right now lmfao You’re pissed at EVERYTHING and yelling at your allies while the people you’re telling them to vote for are supporting the very thing making you furious.

    Fuckin’ awesome.

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        All that voting Blue did in the past two decades was kicking the can down the road, while blocking aerious efforts to form a political power willing to bring the can back up the road.

        Trump isn’t an anomaly. Trump is the symptom of a broken system that was deliberately broken further and further with bipartisan support. And we still see the Democrats staying at breaking things further and helping Trump instead of forming a proper opposition.

        They still rather fight progressives like AOC and Sanders than fighting Trump.

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          There haven’t been 60 Democrat senators since 1979, haven’t been more than 50 in over 10 years. The most productive congress in the last 20 years was when the DNC plus caucusing IND had supermajority for only 72 days, and it gave us medicaid expansion, was a single IND vote away from Public Option.

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    I get it. I too want this entire administration to burn, but at the same time, Perdue was a sitting Senator. A co-worker. Almost normal compared to Bondi or RFK Jr.

    And this isn’t a cabinet member. It’s not like Perdue is going to make any real progress with China on anything.

    China isn’t budging on shit.

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      Democrats reject this guy, a worse candidate is put forward next. Seems like a stupid hill to die on. They’re going to appoint somebody.

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        No, they’re not. What happened to Obama’s scotus pick proves you can gum up this process and prevent appointments. And you can do it without losing voters.

        Democrats are choose to aide the trump admin.

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          The senate rules changed, if I remember correctly in 2013 and 2017, so that presidential appointments and scotus judges could not be filibustered. A simple majority can change the rules for the next congress and the majority party is Republican and the next congress will either be a Democrat majority or it will be a full on dictatorship.

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          Nobody is voting for another year and a half. And hardly anyone for another three and a half years. Democrats need to pick the battles that matter.

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            Democrats need to pick the battles that matter.

            And by an astounding coincidence, none do.

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                  Cynicism like this is why humanity is doomed. Or am I misreading you and you actually think things can (if not will) get better?

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        Technically, if the Democrats reject this guy he still gets confirmed. If every Democrat, Independent, and also 3 Republicans reject this guy, he still gets confirmed. As was the case with Pete Hegseth, whom is way worse than Purdue in every way.

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        Let me get this clearly: because if they fight back, maga will be even nastier, so Dems did the right thing to save us from a worse outcome?

        Well fuck me, I’ve been at unfair to them. I owe them an apology.

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          That’s not what I said. There are better ways to fight.

          Fight the turly terrible candidate choices, not the ones who you might actually have a chance of working productively with.

          Chuck Schumer is abysmal and needs to step down, and he was wrong about the budget. But the essence of his argument has some truth - politics is a two-way street. In the rare case where there is a possibility of cooperation, that sets a better standard and will likely be more effective than endless partisanship.

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            Fight the turly terrible candidate choices, not the ones who you might actually have a chance of working productively with.

            Things centrists never say about progressives. Because centrists only have intentions of working with their republican buddies to accomplish their mutual goals.

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              I think you’re being understandably but uncessarily cynical for the purposes of this conversation.

              I proudly call myself a far-leftist. Even a “woke” one. But victory for the ideals that drive us will not come from endless othering of those who we disagree with. Perfect is the enemy of the good, so the saying goes. I would say it’s now the enemy of even just a little bit better as opposed to so much worse.

              With that being said, we should never compromise on expressing what we actually believe. I want universal basic income, guaranteed minimum income according to a livable wage, weath taxes, and much more aggressive income taxation of the 1% and 0.1%. I want universal healthcare, open borders, and end to private prisons. But fuck me if I won’t vote to make what social security we do have just a little bit better.

              As politicians and lawmakers, we need to be the bigger party in the room that doesn’t stoop to their level.

              I know right now things demand radical defence of democracy, but that doesn’t happen by politicians giving up what little power and platform they might have. They can go to work when they’re not out on the streets with the protestors.

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                I think you’re being understandably but uncessarily cynical for the purposes of this conversation.

                Every time I think I’m too cynical, democrats prove me wrong. They don’t get to come back from supporting a genocide.

                I proudly call myself a far-leftist. Even a “woke” one.

                But?

                But victory for the ideals that drive us will not come from endless othering of those who we disagree with.

                Oh yeah. Wouldn’t want to other those people who carry swastika flags and chant “Jews will not replace us” after all, they’re the only demographic that matters to the democratic party, and they’re willing to throw all of us under the bus for a 1% chance at getting a single nazi vote. You’re bus fodder just like me and don’t you forget it. The femtosecond republicans express the slightest displeasure at your existence, you’ll be under the bus with all the disposables you don’t consider worth defending because it might other some contemptible nazi.

                With that being said, we should never compromise on expressing what we actually believe.

                With every betrayal, democrats converge on expressing what they actually believe.

                I want universal basic income, guaranteed minimum income according to a livable wage, weath taxes, and much more aggressive income taxation of the 1% and 0.1%. I want universal healthcare, open borders, and end to private prisons.

                There is no major party that does not fight against everything you claim to stand for here.

                As politicians and lawmakers, we need to be the bigger party in the room that doesn’t stoop to their level.

                We’re dealing with nazis. You don’t win over nazis by appeasement. You don’t win them over with magnanimity. They do not want to parlay. They want you dead.

                I know right now things demand radical defence of democracy, but that doesn’t happen by politicians giving up what little power and platform they might have.

                Then maybe they should stop giving up whatever power they have every time they have the opportunity to do so.

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                  How would you deal with these Nazis and other fellow Americans who you disagree with? Let’s say you’re the new president and your party controls both houses of government.

                  Trump is allowing people to be disappeared to El Salvador. Would you do the same to these people you call Nazis? What about the 45 million or so people who voted for this shit?

                  I agree the political situation sucks. But solutions aren’t easy, and eventually, at the end of the day, we have to be united or there is only war and violence forever.

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            Fight the turly terrible candidate choices, not the ones who you might actually have a chance of working productively with.

            This makes absolutely no sense, why not fight both?

            Is there a fight limit you don’t want them to waste on small fries? Or is their energy limited due to exhaustion from all their paid appearances and campaigning tours.

            Name one good reason why they shouldn’t be fighting ever single battle!

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          Someone has to be ambassador to China.

          It’s probably going to be someone most on the left so not want.

          So you choose the one that you can stomach while you have a vote.

          Just to note, but even Republicans stonewalled every confirmation.

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    The dnc is a sunk cost.

    You want a country where you can live free, you’re going to have to take it yourself.

    Dont worry though, that will be some other generations problem. Most of us will just have to live through the enshitification of everything. Cherish these last days. You may never see any like them again. You might even wake up one day and think, the status quo was like being stuck at the top of a Farris wheel. Scary, and uncertain but the view was amazing.

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      I agree. I have stepped away from party activity. They are on their own. There are other better avenues for organizing right now.

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    This is how Democracy works. We had an election and America chose Trump. Hard to believe but it happened. America comes together to let that person lead until the next election, this is how America is supposed to work. It is sad that so many people don’t understand how the system should work.

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      America comes together to let that person lead until the next election, this is how America is supposed to work

      After 4 years straight of former-President Trump actively campaigning on a platform built exclusively on vilifying the sitting President, it’s time for unity ya’ll.

      The Republican party may have transitioned its entire platform into “fuck the democrats” and actively supported an insurrection but now that they’re in power again we gotta stand together behind the convicted fascist, because apparently that’s how democracy works.

      Democracy is dead in this country. Don’t believe me? Strange. How odd that elections are rigged when Republicans lose, but democracy is alive and well when they win.

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        I never thought the election was rigged. Political rivals talking shit about eachother isn’t anything new. I’m not sure exactly what you are crying about but the election is over.

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          Oh, okay. Political rivals talking shit. That’s what happened on January 6th.

          Just the President that you want everyone to support, talking so much shit that people died. You didn’t think it was rigged, but you want everyone to support the man who spent 4 years calling it rigged, constantly saying that democracy is dead and only he could “fix” it. The same man who personally sent his supporters to “fight like hell” and assault police and threaten congress to “fix” it.

          It’s so funny how people like you are so willing to support things you disagree with.

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            I think everyone should support whomever wins the election as that is the will of the people. That is how democracy works. Whoever wins in 2028 I will do my part to support, that is my responsibility as a citizen that supports democracy.

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              Right, and when the President commits crimes, attempts to overthrow his own elections, and says “you won’t need to vote anymore” that’s still democracy working as designed. Totally responsible to support that. For democracy.