plspls_pls_ stop calling each other fascists or astroturfers unless you have a thorough understanding of the uncommitted movement and what u.s. primaries are. there is so much blatant misunderstanding and misinfo going on it’s bad.

edit: if any loser dares call for an uncommitted vote in the general election? i will kick them in the balls (gender neutral) (in minecraft)

  • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
    2·
    8 months ago

    Because the path to change course can only come from the democratic party in this duopoly. The Republican party will only ever get more fascist, and voting Republican will only accelerate towards fascism. There is at least a chance for change within the democratic party. At the national, voting for the least worse option (Biden), is harm reduction. And that is still important, regardless how broken this joke of a democracy is.

    Organization and civil unrest can still push Biden to the left on issues even after the election, that’s not possible under trump. It’s important to vote in the national, but remember voting in your local elections for candidates is also super important and your vote goes a lot further.

    • lorty@lemmy.ml
      1·
      8 months ago

      Political change comes from the people. Civil rights didn’t come from voting, nor did worker’s rights. If voting changes nothing, then it is useless to vote, simple as that. Organizing and forcing the changes people want is how you get what you want when your leaders don’t listen.

      • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
        2·
        8 months ago

        I agree that more than voting is necessary and voting is the bare minimum. But it’s still important to vote nonetheless. Do you know of any resources to help people to organize?

      • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
        2·
        8 months ago

        I’m talking about the National, not the Primary. Third party doesn’t work in a duopoly created by a FPTP voting system, that’s the unfortunate reality. Voting Democrat is absolutely harm reduction.

        • core@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          1·
          8 months ago

          I’m talking about the National, not the Primary.

          neither jill stein nor cornel west are democrats

          • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
            2·
            8 months ago

            In America, we have a duopoly of the Republican party and Democratic party. Our FPTP voting system creates a two-party system and prevents any challenge to the two parties due to the spoiler effect. This is by design, both parties serve the capitalist class.

            A Republican presidency is significantly more harmful to everyone (other than capitalists) than a Democratic presidency. The Republican party continues to and will only get more fascist. The Democratic party inches towards fascism due to the ratchet effect. Voting Democrat is harm reduction as it delays more fascist policies. This is because Democratic administrations are less harmful than Republican ones.

            This is to reduce future harm, not reverse current harmful policies and systemic injustices. That kind of harm reduction requires Organization. Which is why it’s important to do more than just vote. That’s why it’s critical to participate in awareness, organization, and action. Especially in local politics. All of which is easier to do under democratic presidency, because their policies are less fascist.

            If you think I support or like the democratic party, you’re absolutely wrong. I just recognize it’s better to have them in power than to have Republicans in Power. Voter apathy only helps Republicans and the ruling class.