Yes, it will go terribly for Russia, the country which notoriously lost every time they fought in winter.
Was gonna say ah yes the Russian army, famously I’ll equipped for winter defenses.
Ukraine already complaining that Russia is cheating by using at Mines on their tanks, I’m sure covering them in snow will make it easier.
those dirty Russianist hordes will surely be weakened by the onset of winter, which history has shown is the perfect time to launch an offensive into Russia. I am very intelligent.The NATO forces will be warmed by the power of love, and triumph over the evil of Russia! I hear they are ready to use the Carebear Stare if Putin doesn’t surrender.
Ah ye,s the Russians, famously unprepared for… checks notes …Winter! Yes, this makes sense!
Ah yes. The Russians. Notorious for losing to invading forces due to being ill prepared for harsh Russian winters.
Wtf is a “Stalingrad”? Sounds very authoritarian.
Oh, it was
It’s Lemmygrad but inside Stalin instead of Lemmy
If there is one propaganda narrative I did not expect to see, it’s this one. This is why I don’t gamble. Can you imagine the odds?
WHY IS YOUR PLAN TO FREEZE OUT THE FUCKING RUISSIANS, ON THE OFFENSE.
THAT HAS NEVER WORKED. THAT IS LITERALLY THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF A BAD IDEA
Nazis gonna Nazi
the cycle repeats again, but to a much shorter beat this time
first as tragedy second as farce
third as a bit
Yes because the Russians are so utterly incompetent that they have literally no strategy in winter time aside from standing around like chickens with their fucking heads cut off. How do people buy this shit?
I am pretty sure it’s 95% deeply rooted racism and the rest is the result of the ongoing propaganda campaign.
They buy it because they have internalized racism, it is simply not possible that these asiatic beasts have prepared for winter.
The nazis themselves were like this, the diaries of their leaders during the first 2-3 weeks of operation barbarossa show how little they thought of the soviet union at the start.
Half of the posters are probably paid to say it and the other half are lib brained.
Russians are getting… whatever they get, so they’ll probably freeze
YES, Russia, fucking RUSSIA, the fucking BIG BEAR, THE FUCKING COUNTRY WHERE THE MOST COLD CITY IS, DOESN’T HAVE EQUIPMENT FOR THE WINTER
LIKE, they even remember that the war already passed a winter?
I was under the impression that libs thought history started in February 2022, but it turns out they seem to think that it started sometime in the last 3-4 months.
Best as I can tell, Liberal history began when they last swam past that tiny castle in their bowl.
This is
slander
And they forgot that we’ve already seen both sides go through a winter in this conflict
It’s radical Last-Thursdayism
Why wouldn’t the Russians be prepared? Look at where they live, do they not think Russian soldiers are prepared for fucking winter?
Nope. Every winter all Russians die. Every spring saruman makes new Russians out of dirt and coal.
Yea think Russia is a tropical climate or something 😅.
Its just usual armchair general discourse, they think they are big brain because they think about the weather.
It just baffles me because isn’t Russia kind of well known for its brutal winters?
It would be unwise to assume these fanboys know any of history.
Or geography, apparently. Either that or after so long denying climate change, they’ve gone too hard in the other direction.
Well, it depends where in the country (it’s big), but generally yeah their summers are milder than say western Europe and winters colder, it’s only starting in Ukraine that winters start to get warmer.
Ah yes. Fighting Russia in winter. The thing that westerners and nazis are definitely very good at.
alright am I crazy or is this not the exact same thing these people were saying last year as winter was approaching?
That’s what’s also confusing me. Like, we’ve already gone through winter of this war so what makes this year different? The Russians survived then and will do the same now so I don’t know what they’re blabbing about.
Most liberals believe history began in 2022. This one happens to be an advanced liberal who believes history started in the summer of 2023
I’m a big lib and I was literally born yesterday
Didn’t Russia literally take Bakhmut over the winter?
A brief search shows that they seized control in May, so technically spring unless they still get snow during that time.
Sure, but their offensives and encirclement happened mostly in Jan/Feb/Mar.
Clearing the city took until May, though.
They forgot to update the bots, they are stuck in a loop
Hey, that’s not fair to bots. That level of stupidity is reserved for humans.
Russia is a tropical country with no experience in winter apparently 😅
How do you explain the jungle in MGS3
Tbh that one still confuses me. You’re setting a game ostensibly in USSR and then make the landscape a rainforest? Why?
I think Kojima simply wanted to make a Cold War spy adventure but ALSO had his mind set on jungle survival elements and just… did both.
A South American or South East Asian setting would have more sense and he did eventually pick Nicaragua as the setting of Peace Walker. Guess he just really wanted to have Russians in MGS3
Guess he just really wanted to have Russians in MGS3
Which begs the question of why
Because he wanted Big Boss infiltrating the Soviet Union
Again - why? I understand why Hollywood does it. It’s usually just an excuse to have some cannon fodder for the protagonist to indiscriminately murder in industrial proportions without feeling a modicum of guilt or any other emotion - save perhaps for the occasional smug quip. Given what I know about MGS series and how much it wants to be a spy thriller… Looks like it’s much the same
It’s not a standard evil Rooskies plot. In the prologue Big Boss goes in to extract a formerly defected Soviet rocket scientist, Sokolov, whose defection is actually the real reason for the Cuban Missile Crisis in MGS lore. The US handed him back to the Soviets to end the crisis but Big Boss (called Snake at the time) is sent to get him out after it turns out they are making him construct an advanced nuclear weapon.
The rescue goes wrong and a renegade Soviet colonel (who has lightning powers because MGS) steals Sokolov’s weapon and blows up the research facility with a US-made Davy Crockett portable nuclear weapon that was given to him by Snake’s former mentor who defects to the Soviet Union and promptly kicks Snake’s ass.
Kruschev is furious about an American nuke detonating on Russian soil and demands the Americans go clean up their mess or WWIII is on the table so Snake is sent back to take out the renegade faction, Sokolov’s weapon and his old mentor.
Of course, there’s more plot twists and double crosses but it’s not an average Hollywood dastardly gommulists affair
I mean MGS1 had Alaska so the change of environment was a nice change, also the concept of a rainforest in a country not really known for them was also really cool to me when playing MGS3. I liked that game a lot despite the brain worms it occasionally had.
Oh and the oil rig of 2 was a bit boring ngl, much more preferred the rainstorm of the tanker segment with Snake. When it comes to scenery of course.
It’s cool and that’s the foremost design rule of MGS since always. All the deeper or more complex stuff just follows along
Ignoring the stupid and outright murderously insane shit in that post…
Are they not aware that Ukrainian men were also conscripted? Ukraine quite literally locked down the borders and wouldn’t let men out and said “go protect the homeland!”
I understand the conscripts thing is meant to he demoralizing or whatever like “you don’t even want this war! Give up!” but that fails when your own country is also conscripting and begging for people from around the world to come help fight Russia. This wasn’t exactly kept a secret either, so it’s just weird seeing it used in this way.
Fascist blocking squads were quite violent with those they deemed cowards trying to desert…
At least Russians who were drafted actually have a sane chance of survival…getting “drafted” by Ukronazis is a death sentence…
Setting aside the question of winter gear (as comrades have already highlighted it), and even setting aside the murderous masturbatory fantasy of war-as-videogame (what they describe is essentially CoD or Ghost Recon kind of game, with gigachad protagonist having hilarious over the top advantage over poorly programmed NPCs).
I want to focus a little on the example chosen for comparison - Predator movie. Because it is a very peculiar choice. What do we see in the movie? First we see a team of these stereotypical Hollywood gigachad “operators” tear through a gang of Hollywood “rebels” in an absurdly one-sided tussle. Can’t even call it a skirmish. The yanks have better gear, better physique, better everything, exactly as what the idiot in the image imagines yankee troops to be. And then the alien turns it upside down on them, by having better physique, better tech, etc. And it’s once again not a battle, nor a fight, the alien is just hiding in the trees like a rat to occasionally pop a yank with that absurd gun of his. While invisible. And when Arnie accidentally circumvents the predator’s tech - it screeches in impotent rage and fires blindly into the jungle, because its FPS sim got disturbed. Just as the yanks were firing blindly into the jungle earlier, for the same reason.
So what’s the point of this rant? Well, I almost want to see those “SOF teams” try to pull their yankee shit, only to discover what “artillery barrage” means and what “peer equipment” means. But of course, useless removed-s like in the op image won’t get the message and will simply continue writing similar masturbatory fanfics.
Seriously. I recently read a paper somebody linked here which went over Russian artillery doctrine. Long and the short is that the Russians can get effective artillery fires on a target inside of three minutes under optimal conditions, particularly when using UAVs for spotting. They’ve also gotten into the habit of attaching mortars to infantry units and forming them up into mortar teams ad hoc, giving such units some quite potent local indirect fire support.
the idiot writing this shit won’t be on the frontlines having his illusions shattered it will be some guy who got signed up by a press gang while trying to catch a bus and already had his illusions shattered who will have to walk this idiots talk
Sadly, you are correct. And that’s the core of the issue. The idiots beating the war drums are always the ones feeling perfectly safe and sound in their little wine caves and incel basements on their little islands. It’s everyone else who foots the bill for their hubris
If we consider the Predator movie, at least the first one, to be an allegory for the Vietnam war because it featured jungle warfare and commando bros facing off against an enemy that is virtually invisible, implacable, utterly alien and incomprehensible, and entirely determined to hunt down and kill the invaders (often in torturous ways) while the commando bros are pretty much helpless against the predator as they get picked off one by one…
Then they’ve kinda missed the entire message underlying the movie.
If they think “better equipment = we’re like the predator” then they’re failing to grasp the fact that the true terror in the film doesn’t come from better technology but from an enemy which can blend seamlessly into the environment, which could be anywhere at any time, and is completely unstoppable. The technology is just window-dressing because if it were about a regiment of small Vietnamese people armed with AK-47s it wouldn’t be much of a spectacle and it wouldn’t play into macho power fantasies.
So, if the story is a metaphor about an enemy which is comparatively poorly armed using their skills and the terrain to their advantage, defeating what is assumed to be the best of the best, then why are they using it to brag about having better equipment again?
Next they’re going to use Starship Troopers in completely the wrong way as a metaphor for the war in the Ukraine, aren’t they?
The technology in Predator isn’t window dressing really, it’s icing on a cake, because predator is able to defeat the Murican HeroesTM largely because it, so by extension they suggest that the Vietnamese (not having that tech obviously) must had some kind of
magicto be able to do it too.Next they’re going to use Starship Troopers in completely the wrong way as a metaphor for the war in the Ukraine, aren’t they?
Already seen it. And not surprising at all, combined with complete amputation of the sense of irony and satire because prerequisite is to take ST movie completely seriously on face level.
If we consider the Predator movie, at least the first one, to be an allegory for the Vietnam war
Errr why should we? Because jungle and imaginary yankee toughs? I’m not sold on this analogy. Predator reads more like Wells’ “War of the worlds” - turning the situation upside down on the colonizers. Suddenly they’re the ones being hunted for sport by uncaring invader with absurd levels of technological superiority (while still acting as if it’s fair and square).
Then they’ve kinda missed the entire message underlying the movie
Oh this I agree with
but from an enemy which can blend seamlessly into the environment, which could be anywhere at any time, and is completely unstoppable.
Nowadays drones fullfil this function
Next they’re going to use Starship Troopers in completely the wrong way as a metaphor for the war in the Ukraine, aren’t they
Didn’t nafo already use the “I’m doing my part” bit from the movie, completely serious and missing the satire?
Errr why should we? Because jungle and imaginary yankee toughs? I’m not sold on this analogy.
I mean, your interpretation is as valid as mine. But I think you haven’t done my words justice in your summary of the points that I made to support my interpretation. You’ve either responded before reading my whole comment or you’ve spent too much time on Reddit.
Predator reads more like Wells’ “War of the worlds” - turning the situation upside down on the colonizers. Suddenly they’re the ones being hunted for sport by uncaring invader with absurd levels of technological superiority (while still acting as if it’s fair and square).
An analogy is such because it’s not a 1:1 representation and it never will be. If it were meant to be a perfect representation of the Vietnam war then it would be a biopic or a documentary. There’s no inviolable rule that you can’t invert parts of your allegory and clearly this was done to make a Hollywood blockbuster action-scifi film.
The predator wasn’t a coloniser imo. There’s less in the movie to support the idea that the predator was colonising the jungle than there is for the Vietnam war allegory. A foreigner in a different land doesn’t amount to colonisation.
I was trying to find the quote from someone who was involved in production who said that if it were a few years earlier then Predator would have been set in Vietnam when I came across this opinion piece which makes a better case for the film being a Vietnam War allegory (while explaining the predator’s high tech) than I did.
Didn’t nafo already use the “I’m doing my part” bit from the movie, completely serious and missing the satire?
Maybe I’m blessed because I haven’t been exposed to nearly anything from the NAFO chuds but I’d absolutely believe this from a group of people who are rapidly circling the ideological drain hole that is fascism.
i know the “invade russia in the winter” meme is inaccurate and overdone, but imagine doing it anyway
I didn’t mean a particular image, just that the way people talk about it misrepresents the timetables
I wonder what war looks like in their heads. Is it a fps shooter? A HOI campaign perhaps? Do they seriously believe soldiers just charge at each other?
It may be related to what space exploration looks like in their heads.
A vehicle lands on a desolate planet, serenaded by LE EPIC HANS ZIMMER music, and amid the BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM, humans transcend and become godlike and win the science victory. Roll credits.
It looks like the Americans from any Hollywood war movie fighting the Soviets from Enemy at the Gates.
In this particular case I’d say FPS or TPS. You can guess HOI foos by their fart-sniffing “strategic analysis”
It’s a fucking game of Advance Wars to them.
As someone who occasionally plays Advance Wars competitively, anyone who’s played a map with snow knows how much it stops offensives. These people are below a children’s strategy game at this point.
EDIT: These people don’t even know that Putin will just activate his CO power and make all the Ukranian units lose 2 hp and lose half their movement due to the snow.
Yeah… I really should try getting into Advance Wars more, it’s a fun game but I have issues with abandoning games…
As low as the bar is, I feel like a HOI campaign is actually a step beyond their strategy at this point.
