• Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    Crazy stuff.

    Meanwhile in America, police kill black people on a regular basis. While the black population of America is about 13%, in the prison system black people make roughly 37% of the population (prison policy.org) and the average Black and Latino households earn about half as much as the average White household and own only about 15 to 20 percent as much net wealth (federalreserve.gov). So it seems equally ridiculous to me to insist (and I have heard ppl say this) there’s no more racism in America, that everyone has equal opportunity and everyone can prosper if they blah blah bootstraps and freedom and liberty. What’s funny is that it’s purveyors of bullshit pointing out someone else’s bullshit in such a bullshitty way.

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      9 months ago

      It doesn’t help when you tell black kids that reading and writing is white people stuff.

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        9 months ago

        Except that no one is saying that.

        Even so, if you are suggesting that black people would be murdered less by police, incarcerated less by the corrupt criminal justice system and have higher incomes if they would simply read and write more is still wrong: Breonna Taylor was a honor roll student in highschool and a graduate of the University of Kentucky. She was gainfully employed as a emergency room tech when she was murdered in her own home by police. So presumably she could read and write and show up for work on time but that didn’t help her did it?

        So in this thread I see: 1. deliberate misrepresentation of info about white supremacy and 2. blaming nonwhite people for the effects of white supremacy.

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          Yes, hard work. People in positions of privilege and power often talk about the importance of hard work. It is a virtue according to those who rest from their labor on the comfortable cushion of capital gains and investment income. Those who prosper from the exploitation of working class people often extoll the merits of dilligence and punctuality.

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            9 months ago

            Winter said at one point that they own 3 houses. So yeah, you hit the nail on the head.

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          9 months ago

          Nowhere in the document does it even come close to suggesting that hard work and being on time is a white people thing. You’re just being racist.

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              9 months ago

              Just like OP’s article, this one is again missing the point trying to be made. I can see how the Smithsonian updated their page to try and clarify things.

              The graphic is saying the values of white anglo-saxon protestants have become the expected values everyone in the US should have.

              Valuing rational thought doesn’t mean white people are rational and black people aren’t. It means, in the US, an artistic person isn’t valued as much as an engineer. “Hard work is the key to success” doesn’t mean white people work hard and black people are lazy. It means, in the US, it’s thought that poor people are only poor because they didn’t work hard enough.

              The Smithsonian wasn’t saying these values are good or bad. It was saying these values dominate US culture and they come from the values of white anglo-saxon protestants.

              There’s nothing wrong with valuing art and work-life balance. In a place like France, that would be the norm. Again, history can be used to explain some of that. Around 1685, huge numbers of French protestants left the country, and took their values of “everyone should work hard all the time” with them.

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              9 months ago

              Usually people grow out of the “no u” phase shortly after grade 5.