This is an excellent article by Cathy Young, exposing some of the widespread misandry within feminism.
I don’t agree with every point she makes. I think the 1848 demonizing of men is way more serious and shouldn’t be so easily dismissed. But that doesn’t take away from her main point: feminism is full of misandry, and if they want to be taken seriously by men, they need to address that.
You would kind of have first to look at societal structures when feminism came up. Those obviously changed dramatically (at least in the west) but so did feminism.
Sounds wild to me, living in Germany.
How exactly is feminism responsible for that?
Which is bad because?
Due to systematic discrimination or because they chose other opportunities?
Why do men pay more taxes, is it an US thing - definitely not the case in Germany for example.
Again how would this be related to feminism. Are feminist running USA? Trump? Joe Biden? For real?!
You literally describe how patriarchy is negatively affecting men. Which is also criticized by feminism. Maybe you need to read a bit.
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Again I don’t see how you, or your son are being punished by feminism. My point was also more about that feminism has a history of addressing societal power structures though the lens of gender. Obviously it will have some outdated elements, but it is being constantly evolved to address more modern problems women - and if you go into more modern version marginalized groups in general experience.
Would be curious to read up how intersectional feminism is demonizing men.
How are lower penalties for women related to feminism, that does not make any sense. Isn’t it more the tradtional societal view of men being the violent and aggressive ones that is responsible for men getting an unfair treatment when it comes to sentencing?
But the reason would be the whole point. Is there a systemic disadvantage, then the state needs to intervene - no need to intervene in personal choice. Women choosing to be a stay at home mom, no need to intervene. Women having to stay at home because they have no other realistic choices. That’s bad.
So there is a pay gap, you might say - pretty sure feminism is addressing that issue.
But again feminism also deals with expectation put by society on men. For a personal example: I was raised by a rather feminist mother - and I don’t really feel any societal pressure on me as a man. Because that’s not what I tie my value as human being to.
That is an issue, but again - how is feminism at fault? This is more tied into USA being very neo liberal and having very little social market economy elements, which can greatly reduce the pressure on an individual.
Sure, feminism is challenging the whole structure that is responsible for the most problems you describe. You talk about the pressure of societal pressure men feel - where does it come from. From feminist world view or from the conservative world view. Does feminism expect men to be the sole earner for a family?
Patriarchy is not a theory it an observation of power structures. You can doubt of how much of it is left in modern times, but come on: women could not vote, work, study or be practically an independent adult for quite the long time in history and still can’t in some parts of the world. It’s silly to claim that there was never a power dis balance between men an women.
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Is it based on feminist theory or rather in the conservative view of the male as aggressive and violent?
I did not apply for that position, not sure why you are asking me. People are allowed to feel how ever they feel like. Oh wait, not in conservative society.
Again, how is this feminist fault? Once again the classical archetype of a man being aggressive and violent seems to be the problem here. Like the other guy, you are blaming feminism for issues that clearly root in patriarchal view in men.
Now feminist invented the draft?
How is this demonizing men?
Sure much easier just to say your opponent is delusional and ride into the sunset. Why answering me in the first place if you think that a conversation with me has no merit?
Except it does not.
It explicitly does not.
Have you ever read anything by feminist outside some crazy people on the internet. Like Simone de Beauvoir or something? You seem to have a completely wrong understanding.
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From the Wikipedia article it seems to work rather well:
And the feminist author seems to have realized it short comings herself. But sure like with anything there will be bad expressions of feminism.
I really don’t get why you prescribe the violent aggressive man to feminist theory. It’s the opposite - that is the classical view of men and often the root of the problems men face in society. Feminism on the other hand tells men that they can have other roles, they don’t need to be the defender, protector, earner etc. - does not mean that they can’t - but that they can chose. It’s the conservative view that puts all the pressure on that you are experiencing.
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