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As an American, I cannot legally touch any egg that hasn’t been ultra-pasteurized followed by continuous cold chain refrigeration and served in either a Styrofoam or pulped paper cardboard egg carton.
I think you have been misinformed. As an American, I can harvest eggs just like the pictured ones from my own backyard on a regular basis.
They don’t even cost any money, they come out of chicken asses for free.
You must have weird chickens. My lay eggs out if their cloaca.
Isn’t their asshole like inside the cloaca?
Their colon is. The coloaca is their asshole, and pee hole, and egg hole.
Pedantic response, thanks for the great contribution
What a noob. Ours come from shops. That way, our entire fuckin garden doesn’t smell like a crashed ammonia tanker
As a side note, if your chicken coop smells like a crashed ammonia tanker you need to add more carbon in the coop. Dead leaves, cardboard, shredded wood or wood chips are working well.
Sorry your yard is so small. Mine is large enough that the chicken coop is far away from the house and is usually not a bother. Summertime when the wind is just wrong can be an annoying stench, but it’s almost nothing compared to the smell of dumpsters in a big city during summer heat.
We call our yards “metres” and they’re a little bit bigger than yours
Off topic pedantry, great response
Sir, this is a
Wendy’sshitpost community.Learn to live a little.
You have no idea how big I can live. What if I told you that I knew a guy who can turn you into a walrus?
This instantly reminded me of an old Mitchell and Webb sketch lol
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Let’s not pretend the acquisition and upkeep of chickens is free… if you eat a lot of eggs it is absolutely worth it, but there is some cost in setting up a coop, getting chickens, keeping chickens fed and safe from predators, disease, etc.
Plus you have to have property to keep them on and be allowed to have them on your property. For most Americans that isn’t possible due to lack of home ownership or HOA restrictions on what animals you can have on “your” property. (HOAs are bullshit)
This is pulped paper cardboard, is it not?
Your pulped paper cardboard.
It’s so nice of you to gift it to them!
I just noticed the mistake and I knew one of you smart asses was going to call me out before I message to fix it :(
You message to fix it? What, you have staff to do it for you?
I don’t even know how the fuck that happened. I give up.
It’s ok. We still like you.
Y’all are ruthless.
Except the ones with girlfriends called Ruth, obv
Hah, jokes on you. I’m a DUMBass. :p
“Y’all’s eggs AREN’T chlorine washed? Ewww unsanitary”
In the US, there’s a concern for salmonella or other bacteria and viruses. Factory egg farming is a horror show in regards to overcrowding and hygiene. Sick birds are crammed in with healthy laying birds, and washing the eggs is one of the safest ways to prevent contamination.
It does increase the permeability of the shell, decreasing shelf life and requiring refrigeration.
If your eggs looked like this in the USA, there’s a small but non-zero chance that you’ll shit yourself to death. Probably not, but it’s scary enough.
We could improve factory farming regulations so it’s not a like a Cronenberg movie, but then eggs would be more expensive. And even if we did, and stopped washing our eggs, Americans would still want them to look clean and would still keep them in the fridge because we’ve been conditioned to expect to die on the toilet covered in wet feces if we see bird poop on the eggs.
Fwiw, the eggs wouldn’t have to be more expensive, the eggs cost what the market will pay.
The only change is that the people profiting from your poor food conditions will profit slightly less.
This is a common lie they tell everyone.
Just looked it up. Six shite-covered-but-perfectly-safe eggs
€1.55
They won’t profit less, line must go up. They’d charge double the difference and blame immigrants and Obama.
sure they could charge more, but the market wouldn’t swallow it so they would sell less. if they could charge more for eggs, they would be doing so right now, for extra profit.
They would collude. All eggs would go up just like during covid, and they wouldn’t lose any sales.
If they could do that, they would do that right now. If they could charge more there’s nothing stopping them from doing that today. We are already at the maximum price they can charge.
Keeping unwashed eggs in the fridge at home helps them last longer, as long as you don’t leave them out to sweat.
But yeah here in Sweden, we rarely ever get salmonella recalls since the chickens aren’t strapped to a box here.
If your eggs looked like this in the USA, there’s a small but non-zero chance that you’ll shit yourself to death. Probably not, but it’s scary enough.
Unless you got it from your own chicken coop
Right, but if you keep chickens for eggs, you already know all of this.
Chickens are vaccinated against salmonella (and a bunch of other things) when they are chicks in Europe. It means you don’t need to worry about shitting yourself to death, the chickens are slightly happier by not being sick, and your eggs stay fresher for longer.
It would probably add $0.005 per egg, so US producers will claim it’s communism if a regulation is brought in to vaccinate chicken, but it would be worth doing.
You mean you put 5G tracking devices in your chickens?
Really, though, getting poultry farmers to spend a penny per dozen eggs is like trying to squeeze water from a rock.
Yeah, it helps one find them if they run away
They’ve made a documentary about it back in the day:
They recently made a new one with up-to-date info on the security of those chickens
Fuckin finally. The tryna high road the Europe and shit like they don’t have poor chicken treatment situations too. Its all down to vaccination requirements. They the treatment of chickens cause both places have issues lol
Refrigerating the eggs end to end costs money too, possibly more. I don’t think it’s about ongoing cost but rather upfront cost to switching.
At what point do people not just think that maybe going vegan isn’t that bad of an alternative
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But eggs are yummy. Baked goods, thickened sauces, omelettes and deviled eggs and egg salad, you can’t really replace them with vegan alternatives. Aquafaba is pretty close for some of it, but people like their eggs and don’t care about how much their food suffers before we eat it.
Right around lunch time it starts looking less appealing
It is way too challenging in my mind at least. I do one meat meal a week and veg the rest. All the fun stuff has milk and eggs in it.
But hey you do it if it makes you happy.
can confirm, am shook
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I know right?
I thought it’d be free fucksake
You pay for your ECGs?
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The biggest reason eggs are refrigerated in the US is because they’re not vaccinated for salmonella, so refrigeration is needed to inhibit growth. The US was able to do that since they have the infrastructure for end to end refrigeration. It’s not necessarily wrong, it’s just another way to do it. Since salmonella can also be on the outside of the egg they need to be washed, and since they’re refrigerated the loss of the protective layer doesn’t matter. I guess in Europe with the vaccination it also lowers the chance of salmonella on the outside of the egg allowing the outside to remain unwashed and protective of the inside making refrigeration unnecessary. There’s just not enough of a reason to change things in the us now since the refrigeration method is already in place and switching would cost more up front. The main downside is that you can’t eat raw eggs in the US which means some dishes can’t be made, but the vast majority of the US isn’t interested in raw egg dishes anyways.
People in the US eat raw eggs all the time. Salmonella outbreaks from eggs are almost unheard of.
Also, washed or unwashed, eggs will keep longer in the fridge. And it makes for a less cluttered pantry. There’s really zero reason for Europeans to be smug about this.
There’s really zero reason for Europeans to be smug about this.
So I can see that you don’t really understand the European mindset
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Sarcasm.
Yeah Ive lived in Europe and the US and raised chickens and have done it both ways. It’s kinda nice having eggs that aren’t covered in bird shit though.
By that reasoning, washed or unwashed everything keeps longer in the freezer. And it makes for a less cluttered pantry AND fridge.
Except for the part where freezing food effects flavor and texture.
There’s just not enough of a reason to change things in the us now since the refrigeration method is already in place and switching would cost more up front.
Cutting on electricity and washing costs?
The main downside is that you can’t eat raw eggs in the US
You can buy pasteurized eggs, though they can be hard to find. You can also DIY them with a sous vide cooker.
DIY as in like cook them?
There are tons of back yard chickens in the USA, even in many cities.
I always wondered if selling eggs to your neighbors violates some us laws
Likely not. There’s some weird agricultural laws because of the great depression. You can mail raw vegetables through the USPS as long as they are addressed and have correct postage, for example.
If you sharpie an address on a coconut and put a stamp on it, the USPS will deliver it. They’d rather you didn’t make a habit of it but they’ll do it.
Why sell? Just give them free eggs!
Why get a paycheck? Just work for free!
Chickens lay a shit ton of eggs, up to one a day each if they’re mature and well fed. Even with a small flock it’s easy to run out of room in the fridge. You have to get rid of them somehow - so why not give what you can’t use to the neighbors? It’s not at all uncommon, I’ve been on both sides of this “transaction” hundreds of times.
As a vegetable gardener that is occasionally snowed under with tomatoes or peppers, I’d love a neighbor with chickens who would occasionally trade a couple dozen eggs for a couple hundred cayenne peppers or something.
Then there’s me… I’ll be the guy who gorges himself to death on a couple hundred cayenne peppers he got for free
I don’t know anyone with chickens that stores the eggs in the fridge.
Edit: spelling
Now you do, nice to meet ya lol. Of course when I ran out of room in the fridge I’d leave some on the countertop. The fridge is just a more convenient place for me, plus if anything they’ll keep longer in there, which is more important when you have a queue of 6 dozen eggs because your hens won’t chill out
Yeah it’s a surprisingly big trend here. And the people I know with chickens are suburban families. They are not on farms and they do not have a ton of other pets. Just a dog or cat.
People should realise they are at risk of exposure to higher levels of lead than recommended.
This is because lead in fuel was legal until just a few decades ago. This means that for 70+ years, any houses near roads will have lead contamination in the soil.
We just moved out of the burbs and have ducks ordered for spring, mostly as pets, but also to eat their children.
This probably goes without saying to anyone who has chickens but a message to rest DO NOT WASH your eggs. It’s the stupidest thing you can do. When you wash them you remove protective layer and they can’t last long outside of refrigerator. Even in the fridge chances of getting Salmonella grows very fast.
DO wash them shortly before eating, though – they come out the chicken’s “universal back hole”.
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Boiling them kills everything harmful. So no point in washing them then.
For anything containing raw egg, washing might not be enough.
Most EU restaurants and cafeterias have a UV sterilizer before storing or handling the eggs: https://www.hendi.eu/en/egg-sterilizer-30-eggs-220462.htmlThey sometimes crack when boiling, and I don’t want my hardboiled eggs in water with dissolved excrements
As someone who has been eating eggs out of our own production for several years now:
I’ve never washed an egg. Ever. When we get eggs from our hens, we mark them with the date and they go into the fridge. When we want to eat them, we take them out and do whatever is required.
We mainly consume eggs in boiled, fried and scrambled form, but also sometimes in a carbonara pasta, where they’ll get heated but not cooked.
None of us have ever gotten sick from consuming those eggs, in whichever form. We don’t consume eggs that are significantly older than one month, but that’s pretty much our only safeguard.
If you must wash them, do it right before using them.
Yes, this is okay.
Not Americans that are used to eating farm fresh eggs from the local farmers market. I lived in downtown Austin until recently and getting freshly picked produce from local and urban farms every Saturday was one of my favorite parts of my week.
Hello I’m from the FBI and I’m on my way to disappear your local farmers thank you
Pwease mista FBI guy, weave my farmews awone UwU
Hello I’m from the FBI and I’m on my way to disappear your local farmers thank you
For those wondering wtf OP is talking about
- https://www.davidgumpert.com/confessions-of-a-raw-milk-undercover-agent-behind-the-scenes-with-investigator-brandow-in-ny-state (2007)
- https://grist.org/technology/food-five-tips-for-surviving-a-raid-on-your-farm-or-food-club/ (2010)
- https://web.archive.org/web/20120314001040/https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/08/the-latest-raw-milk-raid-an-attack-on-food-freedom/243635/ (2011)
- https://americanmilitarynews.com/2024/01/video-govt-authorities-raid-organic-farm-seize-food-in-pennsylvania/ (2024)
Houston here, and same. There’s a bunch of smaller ones. Some get invaded by folks selling store bought things but I dig heading to the farmer’s market on weekends. All the meat I get is from small local farms as well.
Not everyone has that luxury due to cost and location. I know exactly how lucky I am to have so many options nearby, to be able to afford the slightly higher prices, and to have the time to go when they’re open.
My guy, I grew up on a chicken farm. This does not scare me.
Well obviously if you’re an actual chicken, it won’t. How was your cage growing up?
Ah, the good 'ole chicken tenderoo.
Hold my shell, I’m going in
🤣
Why are people upvoting you, you aren’t funny, it feels like a 13 year old got ahold of someone’s account and is doing their first try at shitposting
What are you talking about? He’s just making polite conversation with a chicken.
I grew up raising chickens among other animals. Poop and feathers on eggs was the norm. This ‘50s processed white bread, white sugar, clean eggs, etc. that was the sign of “progress” I guess IMO has done more harm than good in some ways.
But my fridge has a little spot just for the eggs. They look so cozy there. I actually don’t know where I’d keep something as fragile as eggs outside my fridge in the kitchen. Genuine question where do you keep your eggs safe? Do they often break?
We don’t need an eggs safe, fuck me they’re not that valuable
Well no. I’m Canada we keep the anlpha egg of the dozen in the egg safe. It’s not large enough for a full carton of eggs.
C’mon, you’re making Canada sound backwards like that. We have banks and they have safety deposit boxes large enough for several cartons of eggs.
I also keep eggs hidden around the house in case I get a midnight craving for an omelette and don’t feel like doing a midnight heist on my own eggs. Though I do regret the ones I hid under the couch cushions.
It’s not that those are valuable, it’s that those are dangerous. Have you ever tried throwing one after getting it out of an egg safe where it was safely tucked away for the last decade?
In the cardboard carton they come in.
In a cupboard in their container? They don’t spontaneously combust, as long as they’re in the cardboard it’s pretty hard to accidentally break them.
I drop so much out of my cupboards resching for something else. I’ve dropped eggs before, and i would rather clean up a full sack of flour than half a dozen eggs.
Sounds like you might need to go through your things and ask if each brings you joy and get rid of whatever doesn’t.
Does this egg bring me joy? Throws egg on floor, giggles yes it does. Makes note to replace egg
Am American living in the city with 8 chickens. The only scary thing is seeing eggs in the market go for $10/dozen
I’d love to see this city that only has 8 chickens in it
I don’t know what you’re doing, but the way you can turn a phrase around is remarkable. You’ve gotten a few chuckles outta me this morning.
I love you too 😊
Hah my backyard.
Only 10? They’re $13 where i live
And here I thought $2 was a bit too much.
10$/dozen? Where?
Seattle area.
Wow, that’s crazy. It’s €4.49/10 here tax included for the fancy free range, low volume farm ones from a not-cheap supermarket.
3.2USD here for a dozen cage-free brown eggs!
My folks’ chickens’ eggs have orange-r yolks tho.
Farm fresh eggs here in Amish country go for $2/doz.
Miss living near the Amish. They have these cute big families with so many children and agricultural stuff for low prices. I would love to convince them to somehow some way homestead in my city.
Funny, as someone who works intimately with them I find myself distrusting them. They are great at putting on the “old timey, super genuine sweet Christian folk” persona but don’t get it wrong. Their ideology spreads like a cancer around here. They breed like crazy, buy up all the private land, displace other locals with their farms, eschew environmentally friendly agricultural practice to save money, their buggies destroy the roads and cause terrible fatal accidents. It’s not to say they’re all bad but they’re absolutely a highly insular cult and they have no problem turning on outsiders to further their society.
buggies destroy the roads
How? I’d always heard that heavier vehicles do more damage to roads, so I’d expect buggies to be on par with bicycles or maybe motorcycles.
cause fatal accidents
I’m curious about this one, too. Do they tend to drive erratically? I’d think their slower top speeds would make it easier to avoid accidents.
Many Amish churches ban rubber tires and the buggies will at best use hardwood wheels, and otherwise they’ll be steel. Weight is of some minor concern but more principally the hard materials as well as the shoed horses wear away at the road. In high density Amish areas it’s common to see two deep grooves in the road from buggies.
Buggies are not designed for modern roads. They have very little safety features (in fact they only begrudgingly even put reflectors on them, and maybe occasionally flashers for at night), and their bulky, dense bodies and slow movement make them pretty devastating targets to hit. They don’t crumple like a modern car. They explode. Car-on-buggy accidents are very frequently fatal. I know plenty of Amish who have lost family to accidents at relatively slow speeds.
displace other locals with their farms, es
Meh I am not sure how people stuck on old tech are so much better at farming that they can outcompete modern farms. How bad at your job can you be to have your ass handed to you by the 17th century?
Kinda getting tired of the whole “my life sucks because I am lazy let me get angry at people who are actually successful”. Tall poppy syndrome is running rampant, especially in rural America. You can thank me for paying for your roads btw.
Huh, they’re like $2.19 a dozen for me.
Am american and this:
is what I have in my fridge right now. Rural living win.Would definitely lick those clean, 10/10
Are you my dog?
I can be if you want me to.
Down boy, or you’ll get locked in the basement again
Wait, why fridge? I thought they last at room temp if they still have the chicken butt juice. Do they last longer cold?
I still put farm fresh eggs in my fridge because it’s just a lot more convenient to store eggs in the fridge than on my counter where I have more limited space
I don’t get this at all. Isn’t your fridge much smaller than your counter space?
My fridge is designed to store food and has multiple shelves and drawers. My counters are a flat surface area and I’d rather keep them clear for active uses like cutting, prepping, etc.
There are also appliances competing for space on the counter like coffee machines
I guess there’s the pantry but it’s also just that I’m used to keeping them in the fridge and it’s not like it hurts them to go in the fridge.
Anyway, point is it’s really not that weird to keep them in the fridge
If its anything like my counter then kinda, honestly ive knocked enough shit off the counter that its just easier to keep em in the fridge.
Yeah I suppose I could store them at room temp, but I figure they last longer in the fridge and I’m not really hurting for space.
OP, that’s what it would’ve looked like. Your eggs been industrially washed. What a moron is that OP.
Ugh it came out the ass
Unless I’ve been horribly misinformed, so does honey
It’s actually coming out of the cloaca. No idea about the chicken tho
You’re both misinformed. Honey doesn’t come either out of a bee’s anus nor out of a bee’s cloaca. It comes out of the mouth. Bees don’t even have a cloaca. Chickens though do have a cloaca and that’s where the eggs come out.
So where do the chickens produce honey from then, smartypants?
They get it from Aldi.
No way a chicken would fit
The chicken comes out of the egg, the egg comes out of the cloaca
So I’ve thought about the chicken and the egg issue. Wouldn’t it be the egg first since it contained an evolved spices that we currently call the chicken? The one that produced it doesn’t have to be a chicken, only that it produced a mutated offspring whose egg contained the chicken.
Is the egg named after what laid it, or what it contains?
(That’s why I love that thought experiment)
It’s more like the egg contained something slightly different from the mother, and that trend continues for thousands and thousands of “iterations” until eventually it’s completely distinct from that “first” one. There shouldn’t be any species that gives birth to something completely different where it’s protochicken straight to chicken.
That’s kinda what I’m getting at, in that at some point you draw the line on what is a “chicken” vs what isn’t a chicken.
Cloaca is its ass, just a multifunctional one
Is “Multifunctional Ass” the sequel to “Detachable Penis”?
That’s ridiculous, chickens don’t have asses. When’s the last time you went to KFC and ordered a bucket of wings, breasts, and asses?
Sidenote: my phone thnks the word breasts must be changed to breaststroke every time.
Silly every tgingat kfc is chicken asses.
The asses are like the sub-dogfood grade meat at taco bell. You don’t explicitly ask for it, but everyone just knows that’s what they are getting.
But I eat ass for sport
If eating ass was a sport I’d know about it.
It is, but is not competitive yet. We are hoping to form a league.
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Can confirm. We (in US) have chickens and whenever we gift eggs to people they’re astounded that they don’t need to be refrigerated but also sometimes horrified that they aren’t washed.
Granted, I keep the eggs that get poopy for myself so they don’t get tossed out by an overly cautious person. I just rinse them immediately before use if they’re very dirty. Occasionally one of the hens will have an “accident” and lay an egg in the dirt outside or on the coop floor. Otherwise they look generally like the pic above.
I’ve yet to have a rotten egg and at times we’ve gotten behind by over a month… Still good, sitting on the counter for a month.
Fun info, I’m currently eating through some “water glassed” eggs that I stored in May of 2023. Still good.
I have looked up “water glassed eggs” and while it does look interesting as a scientific experiment, I’m reasonably certain that you’re a psychopath
Hahah yeah water glassing is kind of a throwback that helps keep them even through temp variations. We did an experiment back when we had a homestead a few years ago, where we cleaned any nasties if there were any and then dipped the eggs in oil and kept them in a cool room.
We came back every three months to try an egg. We ended the experiment at 2 years after which 25% of them began to float. The rest were still edible but the yolk wouldn’t stay together when cracked.
Ah I see
Psychopath it is then
rofl fair enough
Yeah, at ~8 months these are about 50/50 on whether the yolks hold together. Still taste fine though.
I decided to give it a try since in the spring/summer they were laying way more than we could keep up with … But mostly because I thought it was interesting and wanted to try it :D
You’ll hear no arguments from me : D
More like curious psychopath, maybe
And a pack of 10, not 12.
In Spain it is also a dozen (12).
what’s wrong with a pack of 12?
They use metric egg cartons, we use freedom cartons.
7/13th of an ounce of eggs pls
It’s comfortable for Americans but unheard of in many European countries. The point of this post is to make them uncomfortable.
I live in Europe and I’ve seen packs of 4, 6 (most common), 8, 10, 12. It’s not unheard of at all.
Well, I never bought eggs outside the Czech Republic, Germany and Romania, and they were only available in multiples of 10.
In Norway I’ve only seen eggs sold in packs of 6, 12, 18, or 24. As far as I can remember, anyway.
wow 24 is huge!
Where I used to live there were 6, 10, 15, and huge packs of
2530. Recently 9 eggs packs started appearing (I could almost bet the price is the same as 10)Edit: I somehow decided that 5 times 6 is 25
15? Are those arranged 3x5? Is the 25 package square? I’ve only seen packages arranged as 2xN.
15 is 3×5, as for 25 I stand corrected, those are 30 arranged 5×6 (I counted several times and then wrote an incorrect number 😕)
who needs that many eggs lol, and why wouldn’t they simply buy 3 packs of 10
