12 year old account got permabanned for telling a Nazi off. But even before this happened I’ve noticed how much reddit has dropped off the last few years compared to when I discovered it.

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    Reddit is fucking dead. It’s like 40% Russian psyops trolls, 25% bots, 25% Nazi trolls, 5% users, and 5% admins looking for shit to ban people for

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      actually you can turn that 5% admin, to AI autobanning people, becauses thats been happening since janurary.

      almost all the appeals were AI responses.

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      Remember back in 2022 when Russia disconnected from the global Internet? Reddit was great that day. The amount of trolls and devisive posts plummeted and discussions were much more civil. That was when I first started thinking about looking for a different place to hang out (I had been a pretty prolific reddit commenter). Then the stuff in spring 2023 happened and I found my way here, leaving Reddit for good. No regrets for sure.

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        Oh that was a golden day indeed. You were able to have a civil discussion with someone who disagreed with you and both of you had a pretty good time. Not only on Reddit but also on fucking YouTube!

        Shows you how much Russia turnes anything it touches into pure shit.

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    I had a 13 year old account I simply stopped using in 2023 when mobile.reddit.com was killed and the API changes fees were introduced. Lemmy was “good enough” get to get what I was getting from reddit. I stopped using reddit and haven’t posted since.

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          Your data is still there for Reddit to monetize.

          Overwrite all your old posts with a protest message. Wait a day. Repeat. Wait a week. Repeat. A month, repeat. Then delete shit. Going back to undelete a random post managed in this manner will be too costly for them.

          Downside is that I have yet to find a script that actually catches everything. All the well-known scripts miss a lot, likely on account of their limitations.

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    Reddits purpose is to create Nazis. You can post anything and use AI bots to do it as long as you push right wing propaganda.

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    Oh good I’m not alone in believing something weird is going on like AI moderation. Random old account I had I wasn’t even using got a notification it was permabanned for violating a rule. No definition of which rule. Tried asking. Just a repeat that I violated a rule with no definition of which rule.

    It must be just bots on there now.

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      no your not, i noticed it was odd that i wasnt recieving the incident of the ban, like they usually give if you get banned. but its just AI message and autorejection. and then the last thing, other accounts i havnt used years ago is banned too.

      additionally, i had recieved a temp ban prior but it somehow triggered this.

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        Thanks,

        I think I’m now just super creeped out at the thought of an entire site that is just AI bots now, updooting and responding to each other.

        Or maybe I should be relieved. I was checking some of the stuff over there lately and I’ve just been getting sad and depressed about how stupid people have been getting.

        Although it is Weird that Elon is getting offended by bots tho. Apparently he’s been asking spez to get rid of the mean dems saying bad things about him.

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    I got a 3 day site wide ban for saying that without due process, these ICE guys are just racking up hundreds of kidnapping and trafficking charges in a sane world. The ban said I was threatening violence. I’m done with Reddit.

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      I figure they have AI chatbots making the decisions and it can’t term the difference between talking about violence and advocating for violence

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          most of them use bots, the mods admitted to using those and they dint care if it gets random people or not(wether the context of the reporting was offensive or not), they believe it gets rid of them having to deal with it personally. i was looking at the modhelp, and help subs.

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        It really seems like it. I had all my posts wiped for the night when I got banned. It bothered me that my posts in r/lockpicking got wiped after I made a post in /r/news. I just said ICE agents should be concerned with the amount of kidnapping and trafficking charges that they could see if sanity takes back over because it’s getting into the thousands. Mods said that was violent talk and I was banned. I’ll miss r/lockpicking. It was a fun community.

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          Considering that the US is a fascist dictatorship now, pigboy is a fascist, and r/conservative gets boosted to the front page, it’s likely a non trivial number of mods and admins are paid intelligence operatives acting on behalf of Russia, fascists/conservatives, and corporate lobbyists.

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        When I got banned for ‘promoting violence’ they said that the ai had flagged it, but a human had confirmed it. The humans are just as fucking clueless about context.

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    Most of reddit is now a gross loop of ChatGPT shitting into its own mouth.

    Like well obver 50% of the accounts are not real people anymore, moderation is also now handled by AI.

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      there was an article a while back, said 50% were bots anyways, while i was on reddit, it got noticibally quiet when reddit decided to do one of these purges.

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      True but point of OP is that it used to be liberal echo chamber but that has now changed.

      Clearly Elon wants it a different way so you post anything you like as long as it fits Elon’s desired narrative.

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        It didn’t start as an echo chamber. Initially it was one of the few places online a progressive minded person could go and feel like they could express their opinions openly. And by “progressive” I mean both left and right leaning ideologies.

        Which, funny enough is now a foreign concept. We call everyone on the left “progressive”, even though Biden and Kamala are clearly conservative Democrats. And we call Vance a “conservative” even though he’s clearly a progressive Republican.

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          Yep, absolutely. I lean right but fucking hate Trump. On lemmy I can say that, on old reddit I could say that, on current reddit I’ll get really nasty, hateful remarks and almost zero open dialogue

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    Billionaires are taking control of any avenue for free speech. Get yourself ready to switch to torr. Won’t be long now until it’s the last place free of misinfo/disinfo campains.

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    I just got banned for saying that if RFK doesn’t believe in germ theory we should dust him with anthrax and see what he says, lol.

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    Loads of old accounts are now just getting perma banned site wide.

    I had an accot that hadn’t been used for commenting (just the every now and then looking for something) that got perma banned about a month ago. Reason? None given.

    I’m guessing they want to rid the site of users that still remember how great it once was

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        You get bot warnings for “promoting violence” or some shit. They’re basically making “thought-crimes” a thing now.

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      Account age was used when factoring the credibility/legitimacy of a user account when humans moderated.

      The AI moderators don’t care, and making most non-banned accounts younger makes it harder to verify the legitimacy of the accounts, which is even a good thing if they are trying to flood the site with bots.

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        this hasnt slowed down mass accounts from created instantly and to spam propaganda, OF accs, or Links to a business. i think what happen is they just upped thier sensitivity of thier spam filters, now its seeing botting everywhere, even normal people. and yes AI cant discriminate between a real person and a botter.

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      same here, i dint realize i created an accounts 5+years ago, suddenly i started receiving ban message in email all at once. also triggers it if you recieved a temp ban too. people made accounts a safety measure just incase a sub decides to ban them, and the new acct is avoiding that sub while commenting normally elsewhere.

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      I remember when reddit used to invite actual interesting celebrities to do AMA’s. Things never were quite the same after they fired Victoria.

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        There was even a time when AMA guests would just do the AMA for fun, or to get in touch with their fans. Not just when they are starring in a new movie or show / have “written” a book or some other financial motivation looming overhead.

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        Oh good old Victoria… I wonder what happened to her, I’m sure she landed on her feet.

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        there is one that still does AMA, but he shills for republicans now, and posts propaganda(because he conveniently started doing this 1-2 months before trumps election as if he was shoring up republican support and this was right after coming out as hollywood republican) about vets/vet injuries, how he “Cares” about them, just because he was in a movie and visited a hospital.(reminiscient of how hilaria baldwin think shes spanish just because she lived in europe for a while)

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    Yep, also told off Nazis. Then, perm banned. I’ve been on that site for 15 years, moved over to Lemmy. Fuck Reddit.

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    I’m just there for the porn, these days. Any sort of meaningful interaction with people happens elsewhere.

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    I’d say the most recent major influences were the IPO and the emergence of LLMs.

    Reddit becoming a publicly traded company and the preparation to do so certainly initiated a major shift in its priorities.

    Ai and large language models make it easier than ever to create shiny, but low quality content.

    And the rest is just reddit becoming more mainstream leading to an overall shift towards banal rather than niche topics.

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      i said they are following the facebook method, FB is now mostly AI using old accounts pushing right wing propaganda, i only see reddit will do the same eventually. or they try to look like a"both sides" type of site while allowing signicant astroturfing from russian trolls.

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      I suspect they have been tweaking the front page algorithms to bury niche posts. Niche subs that I already follow don’t seem to have changed, but r/popular and r/all have definitely lost their spark.

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        pushing r/conservatives, and any sub that talk about politics to the front was pretty obvious of the manipulation. Also the “baiting subs” like glowups, gym is there too.

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    Got banned for telling a Nazi off.

    I hate to be that guy, but when you say “Nazi,” are you referring to a literal 1940s National Socialist German Workers Party 3rd/4th Reich “Aryan Race is superior and Jews are evil” Nazi (aka a real actual Nazi), or someone with a different political/social opinion/ideology from you (ie, a Republican/Democrat/whatever is opposite of your political/social ideology)?

    I was on Reddit for like 13 years and never got banned for less than positive interactions with people that said they supported real, actual Nazis.

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      You conveniently left out the mostly likely case of them being Neo-Nazis which have been around since post-WWII.

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        I mean, was not when I said “4th Reich” including Neo-Nazis? I thought that is what I included.

        Just to be clear, I do not support Nazis or Neo-Nazis. But American Democrats and Republicans (or any other ideology that may be different from my own) are not Nazis or Neo-Nazis. I don’t agree with either side of American politics, but that does not make me qualify them as Nazis.

        IMO, calling anyone that is not an actual, real Nazi, such as an American Democrat or Republican (or whoever else thinks opposite from me), a “Nazi” or even “Neo-Nazi,” de-values the real suffering that people who are actual Holocaust victims had to deal with. Quite frankly, is insulting to me that anyone would ever attempt to equate the two. Its like saying getting hit by a fly swatter and a train will be the same level of pain and suffering.

        I might think someone who thinks opposite of me is stupid, but it is neither illegal or against any rules to be stupid (sadly). But I certainly would not call them a Nazi and de-value the suffering Holocaust victims had to go through.

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      NSDAP, of course. Their moronic administrative decision of having redundant public institutions compete with each other is simply nonsense.

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        Yes, of course. Because only a Nazi would be concerned with trying to be respectful of victims of the awful, inhumane treatment they had to endure under the rule of one of the worst, if not the worst, governments of all time. Thank you. a should have realized this sooner.

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      Given how Reddit bans are currently being dealt out, it’s likely a “Aryan Race is superior and Jews are evil” Republican.

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        on another forum(not lemmy) they said reddit has recently enhanced thier detection of people ban evading using paid methods, which uses things to hide thier browser ID, IP,etc. its getting worst actually. thier also doing bulk bans, if a stranger gets banned anyone that is similar to that acct is also shadowbanned(allegedly thats what other banned users are reporting)

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          I’ve tried multiple ways of getting past it every account is almost instantly shadowbanned , I gave up searched for an alternative and found this