Following his trial for defamation of the families of the children and school staff killed in the Sandy Hook massacre, conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is using Valve Corp.’s Steam, the world’s largest digital distribution platform for PC games, to sell an Infowars-themed video game. Jones claims to have earned hundreds of thousands in revenue from the video game, yet he has refused to pay the Sandy Hook families. Alex Jones: NWO Wars also mirrors and cartoonishly repackages the conspiracy theorist’s regularly violent, hateful rhetoric despite the platform’s policies against hate speech.

Following his trial for defamation of the families of the children and school staff killed in the Sandy Hook massacre, conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is using Valve Corp.’s Steam, the world’s largest digital distribution platform for PC games, to sell an Infowars-themed video game. Jones claims to have earned hundreds of thousands in revenue from the video game, yet he has refused to pay the Sandy Hook families. Alex Jones: NWO Wars also mirrors and cartoonishly repackages the conspiracy theorist’s regularly violent, hateful rhetoric despite the platform’s policies against hate speech.

  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Personally, I think we should move the conversation there since posting here feels like you’re trying to get more eyeballs on this stuff.

    I’m indifferent. Not trying to grab eyeballs, just trying to find different angles on the topic. Anyone who claims it was debunked is interesting because they may have more knowledge than I (i.e. you and you podcasts). Post a thread and I’ll follow.

    I find this stuff dangerous, and it’s usually best discussed in a more focused group.

    We are discussing 8 year old emails and Instagram posts. Not planning an insurrection.

    It contains the best evidence I’ve heard for Pizzagate.

    The link I clicked quickly through was making fun of some Alex Jones contributors ordering pizza.

    The fact that an idea shows no signs of dying out is not going to get me to believe it.

    Agreed. My point was that continued claims of debunking don’t reduce interest in the subject.

    Virginia Giuffre was a victim who came forward.

    Only as a middle aged woman. Kids in the Instagram photos would now barely be over 10. You can’t use their silence as evidence.

    What are you doing bringing Epstein into this?

    I’m showing that sex trafficked people don’t often come forward. In Epstein’s case it took 20+ years.

    any pundit that “bunks” pizzagate talking-points that also said anything about Epstein

    Sorry. Not a claim or a point I’m defending.

    There are no victims in pizzagate.

    We have photos of some from Instagram.

    That is your best evidence so far.

    No, the. Best evidence is the steemit summary above. That made a LOT of people suspicious.

    How else do you reach the kind of people who believe things based whatever they hear from pundits claiming to have secret knowledge?

    The conspiracy crowd were not the target audience. You certainly don’t go through Colbert. It was pure Streisand effect.

    That’s very vague and spooky. Does it have a meaning?

    It was my attempt at explaining the massive national media campaign supporting a pizza shop owner against apparently ridiculous allegations. Protesting too much.

    Wow. Bold of you to bring up another known pedophile.

    Because he was republican and mentioned in friendly terms by Podesta. I’m dismissing the “right wing” tag that gets attached to pizzagate. Often via Qanon.

    And qanon stoking fires is another conspiracy point I will simply not engage with. Qanon is too unfounded for me.

    I think that is fair. Qanon came later. It should be separate but people often confuse the two.

    That investigation went as far as it could before violating the rights of a private business owner

    No. There was no investigation (sorry, no supporting evidence). “Private business owner” has nothing to do with suggestive Instagram posts involving children.

    Where people do not engage with these fear-mongers who actually proclaim that Democrats drink the blood of babies.

    Ah. So you aren’t saying this couldn’t happen. Just that you’d ignore anyone who pointed out if it was happening.

    Why introduce "drink the blood of babies. "? Irrelevant hyperbole adds nothing.

    I feel I’m being quoted out of context.

    Sorry, not my goal. Just trying to make reading easier. Misquoting is pointless here.

    It sounds like you are bragging about making peoples lives miserable based on nothing.

    I’ve had no interaction with either.

    You mentioned persecution and they have both been on the receiving end. However, if they had been investigated by law enforcement, or publicly addressed their accusations then there would be no persecution (or at least much less).

    I assume you are in the debunked camp. Can I ask what makes you so sure there was nothing suspicious happening?

    • Ook the Librarian@lemmy.world
      1·
      8 months ago

      You said you’d listen to the podcast. I’m going to hold you to it. It’s a comedy show. And pizzagate is ridiculous. But you offered to argue their points. “they’re mean to my friends” isn’t going to cut it.

      The best evidence for your claim is that link? Please read the FIRST paragraph and let’s discuss the reading level of The Emperor’s New Clothes.

      I’ve read it pretty deeply now. You better start connecting some dots. There is too much secret sourcing.

      I’m not even sure what “claims of debunking” you even mean. What even are the claims of pizzagate? That the emails are boring, but if you squint, you can pretend it’s a conspiracy. It’s the least interesting thing I’ve heard. What’s to engage with? There are no bodies. No victims. The crimes alleged must have victims. What court is going to convict anybody on these charges with no victims? Have the jury squint at instagram pics? Please give your argument some grounding.

      I am not afraid of a lack of victims. The existence of victims would blow this wide open.

      Please tell me of a historical case (aka in reality) where a pedo ring was busted with no known victims.

      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
        1·
        8 months ago

        pizzagate is ridiculous.

        Depends which particular claim you are talking about.

        • Hillary locking up kids in a basement … ridiculous. This strawman was invented to be debunked.

        • A pizza restaurant owner with an unhealthy interest in kids … not ridiculous.

        I’m not even sure what “claims of debunking” you even mean.

        It means the claimer is 100% sure that a particular theory is false.

        Flat Earth - debunked

        Political figures discuss illegal topics over email using codewords - could be true

        What even are the claims of pizzagate?

        • Pizza owner distributes CP from his restaurant website.

        • The Podestas talk in code over email.

        • Instagram was used to joke about child abuse.

        What’s to engage with? There are no bodies. No victims. The crimes alleged must have victims.

        You are 100% sure there are no victims?

        Child services have interviewed the guardian’s of the girl taped to a table?

        It is impossible that these people were discussing abusing kids?

        To debunk a theory, that is what is needed.

        What court is going to convict anybody on these charges with no victims? Have the jury squint at instagram pics? Please give your argument some grounding.

        OK, this is never claimed. Investigations by law enforcement to find the required level of evidence to present to a court were never conducted. Why not?

        Please tell me of a historical case (aka in reality) where a pedo ring was busted with no known victims.

        Any where images are traded. Victims are unknown but unfortunately exist.