• Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      This is a weird amount of preoccupation to have with a subculture of mostly queer people who just watched too much Disney and read too much Warrior Cats or Animorphs as kids.

      In general furries embrace their cringe and are unashamed of the stuff they enjoy, can’t say I see anything near as wholesome from the company you keep when you’re hand wringing about sexual degenerates that should be banned from schools.

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      You can not be homophobic and have similar thoughts on a subject with a group that is.

      Very little has a strictly black and white separation in this world, it’s all shades of grey.

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        Saying something is fucked up has been said about a lot of things. I’m sure there’s someone who’s said it’s fucked up to put pineapple on a pizza.

        Also you do realise those are things people are born as? Whereas no furry was born a non-human.

        The fact you would even compare them is a a revile as 4Chan trolls trying to link “maps” to LGBT.

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              So, sometimes I pretend to be a wizard and roll some dice about it. If one of my players showed up in armor it’d be badass. It’s a hobby. Few things are more cringe than furry hate.

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                The key difference being you’re playing a game.

                If one of your players showed up wearing a fedora, hentai body pillow, and hadn’t bathed in 7 days would you still be as happy?

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                  No because they should bathe and take their body pillow to a group around that. Idgaf what kind of hat they wear though.

                  That’s the thing here, furry events are the time and place for furry stuff. It’s like how people dress weird and hit each other in dungeons and wrestling rings. People dress weird and say strange things in religious buildings. People dress weird, talk weird, pretend to be someone they aren’t, and often stink at Renaissance festivals. Times and places. I’m not gonna judge their hobby just like I won’t judge the SCA

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                    So it’s a hobby and not an identity now?

                    Its completely separate from being LGBTQ+. Good.

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              Bullshit. That’s the same shit used against drag queens and crossdressers. People who were instrumental to lgbtq history. I’d have thought someone “not straight” would’ve known better.

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                You’d be surprised. I’ve even encountered a lot of gay people who are against the ‘T’ or the ‘BT’ in LGBT.

                Being gay certainly makes you more likely to be progressive, but I’ve learned it definitely doesn’t guarantee it.

                Plenty of gay people are regressive, hateful fuckwits.

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                  I’d suggest you read the g/acc manifesto. Some people do believe they’re animals and should be encouraged to express their kinship with them. Queering society as such is something you should be all for if you’re “not straight”. I say this as a trans woman who’s been around the community for a decade- identity is fucking complicated. Reductive logic like this is NOT applicable and actively harmful, even. therian/xenogender people, you’re fucking awesome and I love you all.

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                    Some people do believe they’re animals and should be encouraged to express their kinship with them

                    Uh no, those ones in particular should be getting legitimate psychiatric help, just like someone believing they’re Jesus should.

                    And they are not part of the community because they are not a sexuality or gender. Stop weakening the movement by lumping every random alt thing into it.

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              True, but it’s obviously different from race, sex, etc. It’s closer to nationality, because it affects your upbringing but can change over time.

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          And neither do most furries. It’s like saying gamers are fucked up because they wanna fuck Lara Croff and cosplay Let Me Solo Her. The weirdest parts of a community aren’t the only parts, or even the biggest parts. Plenty of furries just like watching Looney Tunes and Zootopia and making OCs.

          The furries=sexual deviants line was what they once said about Trekkies, and it was as true then as it is now.

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              Put way better than I could say it, thank you. As somebody who’s been on the edge of that community for years as an artist, the hatred they get has always baffled me.

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              I can even agree that for a lot of cartoony media, depicting people as animals can give it a really cool/cute style. A lot of people have fond memories of reading the Redwall books, which took that to a logical and mature extension. But, having close association to all of the sexual stuff is where it gets bizarre and unlikable.

              I’ll even go out on a limb; I really enjoyed Lauren Faust’s My Little Pony series. I thought there was some fun, inventive writing humor, good VA, and smooth animation; for a time. But there’s undeniably a ton of people that made obsession with that series really weird.

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      Idk man that doesn’t quite sound like hate to me. More of a sting dislike. I think the point still stands.