@georgetakei@universeodon.com on the topic of guest being asked to fund the honeymoon, I could not agree more. everybody seems to want, and expect, everything. Don’t ask your friends to support your life. Gifts are traditionally about helping a new couple set up housekeeping. I get that is no longer as pertinent but they should then select items they will value for decades. Not potato peelers or small misc things. I will also say that expectations for what one should spend on gifts is way low.