Title says it all.

I am a huge 40k fan and I know how problematic 40k is with its portrayal of endless war and facism. Comrade @relay@lemmygrad.ml has put it best:

Maybe all of the 40k factions are fascist and that universe’s lore has no dialectic of class struggle and is to violent to be realistic, thus serves as part of the superstructure for fascism.

it reinforces the idea that the conflict between tribes will always supercede the conflict between classes. It’s wrong on so many levels.

And yet I can’t hate it. I have a hard time taking 40k serious and seeing it as more than a silly boardgame with cool minis and (deliciously) stupid lore.

Same with B99. I know that the show is horrid copacanda, I know that shows like this prevent people from seeing pigs as the pigs they are because “funny cop show portraits them as silly and relatable.” But I still like the show a lot. I like the characters and just pretend that it plays in a parallel universe were cops aren’t the worst.

I just sort of suppress any critical thoughts and take those things at face value without thinking about what they imply. It’s just very hard to find alternatives.

So yeah I feel terrible for finding enjoyment in this stuff even though I know I shouldn’t. Can anyone relate or do you perhaps have similar feelings towards other franchises?

  • Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    War films from Russia and China actually celebrate real war heroes defeating fascism.

    Just be careful with the Russian war movies after 1985. Some are straight up anti-Soviet propaganda (Mikhalkov’s “Tired by the sun” series). Other are simply crap or revisionist as hell (Zoya, Devyataev, T-34)

    • 🙉PrimarySources🙈@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      I have not seen those but it makes sense that forced liberalization at end of 20th century also affected culture/film.

      I can highly recommend Battle of Sevastopol, and recommend Panfilov’s 28, and Podolskiye Kursanty (cant find english name at the moment)… Even the Wagner docu-drama in CAR was actually pretty good although I only understood a small bit of it.

      Chinese war films though are truly top knotch. Especially the ones made in partnership with ministry of culture. True heroes.