America’s automakers have staked their futures on the notion that electric vehicles will dominate sales in the coming years, spurred by buyers determined to reduce carbon emissions and save on fuel.

But so far, while EV sales are growing, their pace is falling well short of the industry’s ambitious timetable for transitioning away from combustion engines. Instead, buyers are increasingly embracing a quarter-century-old technology whose popularity has been surging: The gas-electric hybrid, which alternates from gas to battery power to maximize efficiency.

So far in 2023, Americans have bought a record 1 million-plus hybrids — up 76% from the same period last year, according to Edmunds.com. As recently as last year, purchases had fallen below 2021’s total. This year’s figures don’t even include sales of 148,000 plug-in hybrids, which drive a short distance on battery power before a gas-electric system kicks in.

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      Regarding the first two, I find charging my EV at home means I rarely have to consider public charging. I’ve started to find stopping at the gas station way more inconvenient.

      When I lived in the city, I maintained charge with a standard 120v outlet. In a rural area, I am doing well with a 240v (15a).

      12 hour+ road trips are the only thing I hesitate on much anymore — sometimes I love the EV road trip, and other times I’m just looking to make good time.

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        It’s a problem for those that cannot charge at home. My apartment complex will not install chargers and I have no easy way to run a charger myself.

        That’s not to say your point does not stand, but it’s still not a reality for folks like me quite yet. After my last car was totaled (RIP), I went with a hybrid. Pretty good fuel economy (35-45mpg in the city, 50-60 on the highway) and it hasn’t given me any issues so far.

        If I still need a car by the time this one bites the dust, then I would definitely consider if an EV would fit my needs.

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      We leased a PHEV, in part, because of this. The other half was finding an EV that comfortably fit 5 people for road trips (live in the western US).

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        Which one did you get? I would love a plug in hybrid, but I need the third row for the dog, and all of them get middling reviews.

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          Not the guy you were talking to but a family member recently got the Kia Sportage PHEV, they are very happy with it.

          No third row, but it’s a very roomy SUV

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            A roomy trunk would work for the dog. Thanks!

            Side question, are people still stealing Kias as a social media challenge?

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              Not the OP, but the Kia thefts were on their lower trim packages that did not have push to start options and used keyed ignition instead. Any of their PHEVs or hybrid models tend to only have the higher trim packages so they can charge more for them (I own a Kia Niro PHEV), and the push to start keyless starters have the immobilizer installed. It’s started to die down a bit on the thefts, but make sure that the model you’re looking at has push to start AND immobilizer installed before buying.

              I love my Kia, and I would recommend them highly based on my personal experience, but just make sure you research before picking one up.

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      Those and battery range as well for me are still issues. I’m sure in 5 years at least some of these problems will be solved. Though I doubt the price of EVs would come down to a reasonable point any time soon.

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      If you own a single family home with off street parking …… adding a circuit for a charger cost slightly less than adding a circuit for an electric range, and the charger itself was only a few hundred.

      I’m still too new to EVs so really haven’t had to charge much yet but 48a level 2 charger goes pretty fast.

      Most of the time, treat it like charging your phone. Plug it in at night or when you get home and it will always be fully charged in the morning (or I have mine set to 80% to help the battery last longer). You could make this happen with a much slower charger and some people even get away with standard outlet

      Road trips are a different story but I haven’t taken one yet. However I keep reading Tesla’s can charge a battery from 5% to 80% in half an hour and Hyundais are faster. That doesn’t seem bad at all

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      I definitely had charge anxiety, but my ioniq 6 comes with a simple wall charger that does the job nightly. It’s like plugging in your phone.

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      I don’t like the idea of the battery going out and now you’ve basically got the choice of nearly the cost of another car or getting another car.

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        Same thing happens when the power train of an ice goes out, ins about the same time as the expected battery death as well. The greater majority of ice vehicles don’t last decades either

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          What drive train costs $18k before labor?
          Also I can rebuild an engine or transmission to save even more money.
          I can’t rebuild a battery in my garage.

          I’m not opposed to EVs, but no one seems to be concerned about the maintenance once these things get old.

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          The problem is a drive train failure is a total failure. It either works at a 100% or not at all. A battery deteriorates non-linearly over time. So while you might have to replace both at the same time, the battery has had less effective use.