• whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    Ah yes a personal anecdote is 100% more valid.

    That said, from what I’ve heard the big problem is the disparity of build quality. Some Tesla’s (like possibly yours) are built amazing. Some others are put together like shit.

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        11 months ago

        Every brand isn’t evangelized in the same way the cult of Elon pushed their golden goose. They’re run of the mill or worse than industry averages.

        https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/who-makes-the-most-reliable-cars-a7824554938/

        https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2022-us-initial-quality-study-iqs

        Couple this with the ridiculous price point on the vehicles and you have apple cars so to that point I can understand the delusional obsession with the brand and supporting it

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          Every brand isn’t evangelized in the same way the cult of Elon pushed their golden goose.

          Maybe, but ask an Alfa Romeo fans about the brand… they are way worse than the Tesla fans… 😉

          They’re run of the mill or worse than industry averages.

          Look, I can tell way worse things about Renault if I look at how my car came out, so ? And I would concede that Tesla is pretty new to mass producted cars. During the years I found many quality problems also with brand that are even more evangelized and have a way longer history.

          Couple this with the ridiculous price point on the vehicles and you have apple cars so to that point I can understand the delusional obsession with the brand and supporting it

          In Italy, a couple of models (Y and 3) are pretty much aligned with other brand’s cars of the same category, so they don’t seems to be that expensive. Or the other brands are too expensive.

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      11 months ago

      At least I provided some kind of evidence, even if it’s an anecdote. You made a generalization with absolutely no evidence.

      That’s fine if there’s a disparity but it’s not as common as your statement makes it seem.

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        11 months ago

        Personal experience is not scientific or journalistic fact. As for providing evidence Google it. There’s lots of reputable sites that will tell you their build quality is inconsistent AF as well as they intentionally bully owners to accept shit.

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          11 months ago

          Personal experience is still evidence. It’s not objective evidence, which normally would be a problem, but you haven’t provided any whatsoever. “Google it” doesn’t serve as a replacement for it, either.

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              11 months ago

              None of those say what you claimed.

              Your first Lemmy link just links to an article that says 10 to 20 thousand vehicles. Considering they’ve sold millions, their rates are actually below lots of other manufacturers by volume. They’re not the best by any stretch but they are far from the worst, as you stated.

              The 2nd is the same - “tens of thousands”. That means less than 1% of their cars sold.

              The last link has nothing to do with build quality and its source is a LendingTree article based on insurance data that is specious. Their “safest” cars are vehicles that haven’t been produced in over 10 years. They clearly have issues with their data and even have a disclaimer at the top of the source.

              If you’re going to be a condescending ass, at least get your information straight instead of falling right into the sensationalist bs that you’re complaining about.

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                11 months ago

                Anything to avoid doing your own research eh? Will happily “fact check” my shit but God forbid you do your own work? I may be a condescending ass but at least my head isn’t up one.

                It’s clear I won’t find anything outside of Elon telling you they’re crap for you to believe but by all means Consumer Reports and JD Power having them run of the mill or worse surely can’t be legit.

                Oh wait. Elon has stated before their quality issues are shit. Of course you’ll dismiss it because “hurr durr it was years ago”

                https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/03/business/elon-musk-tesla-quality-problems/index.html

                Best of luck and enjoy your Tesla!