We were told this was going to happen by those that are making it happen. And still 91 million people chose not to vote. Of those 91 million people- was enough make the difference between keeping out democracy, and….
This.
I hope the smug arrogance of your little protest of the trade-agreement support of weapons to a country committing genocide is going to be enough to keep you properly blinded to the suffering of so many others as a result of your stubborn refusal to see the bigger picture-
You’re so used to being outplayed and embarrassed by Republicans and so complacent with your horrible fucking leadership that your little rage boner trembles in fear in the face of your actual enemies and you can only muster it up for people who couldn’t stomach voting for the government actively killing their family members back home.
If you showed any spine an election ago, two elections ago, three elections ago, the Democratic leadership wouldn’t be shitting all over your face and chest.
You apes shout “vote blue no matter who!” In the face of GENOCIDE and act morally superior.
And the ROFL! continues. You’re quite the wealth of hysterics, aren’t you?
Your first mistake is assuming you know someone from a few sentences on the internet. It clearly displays your ignorance, and only serves to confirm one’s decision to not bother engaging with you.
Your second mistake will be responding to this comment.
Stop it. This sort of cope is completely unproductive. I understand that you need to find someone to blame but those are also the people you need to get out of this mess. You clearly couldn’t avoid it without them. Be like Mamdani - ask why, understand and if you’re gonna blame, blame the ones who actually hold power.
No. I will NOT stop it. Those that are responsible need to be called out. They shouldn’t get to hide amongst the victims of their shit decision.
When they can one by one, stand up- and take responsibility for their part- maybe I’ll stop. But as of yet, I haven’t seen even ONE of them own it. No, they just lean even harder into it, but I guess shame will do that.
Additionally, in case you haven’t been paying much attention, take a look around. You’ll see them here, shouting at everyone, blaming liberals/democrats… and yet, I don’t see you responding to them to “stop it.”
So, no, I don’t think I’ll stop it. All we have now- is to blame the responsible parties and hope that through shame and responsibility, they can be trusted not to make this same mistake the next time….
I understand that you need to find someone to blame
Yes. The people whose fault it is.
People don’t get to escape accountability just because we need their vote in a potential future election.
People will suffer and die because of these morons. I mean, everyone is going to suffer to some degree because of them. It’s entirely acceptable to call them out. Letting them escape accountability doesn’t fix anything. You don’t learn anything when your mistakes are brushed off and you’re embraced without acceptance of fault.
They acted like petty children. Now we’re all suffering. Some WAY more than others. Yes, fuck them.
Calling people out in this way does not typically result in corrective action. People do not get the conclusions they do because of their internal sources of wisdom. Instead they, and us, largely compute our conclusions based on the information we receive. The vast majority of that information is flowing via corporate channels, which funnel the right information to get corporate-friendly conclusions. The fact that me and you are talking on a socialist platform is such an outlier, driven by so much luck and extra work we’ve been able to do that it’s nothing short of a miracle. If the information reaching the people you call out doesn’t change, they won’t draw different conclusions and instead tell you to go fuck yourself, to your face, or at the ballot box. We can’t change the corporate channels at the moment. The only information that reaches them that could be different is our voices, through social channels. This is why I’m saying that we should use that to feed new information that could actually change their viewpoint. That information being callouts is not going to do that. Empathy, understanding, information, helping them see what we see could. This is a class war and we don’t have a chance if we fight our class. I assume you also work for a wage or a salary like me and most Trump voters.
Any evidence that it was actually progressives staying home out of a protest vote that cost Kamala the election? This seems like wishful thinking on the part of liberals. The polling I’ve seen and the progressives I know all held their nose and voted for Kamala. Kamala lost because she couldn’t convince enough low-engagement voters to come to the polls. They didn’t vote not because of genocide, but because they didn’t feel Kamala was going do anything to improve their lives. Biden won by adopting a lot of Bernie’s social welfare programs, and Kamala walked away from most of that. Obviously the concerns for democracy was real, but people value democracy a hell of a lot less than you might think. People have lost faith in democracy from cycle after cycle of their votes not mattering. They can either vote for a Republican that will help the rich or a Democrat that will help the rich a bit less.
Remember, the US doesn’t actually have any kind of meaningful mass democracy, and it never has. It is only the opinions of the top 5-10% wealthiest of the people that have any influence at all on actual policies that are passed. The poorest 90% of US citizens have never lived in a democracy. That’s why running on preserving democracy failed. Only the upper middle class and rich get democracy, so the working class saw no reason to fight for it.
Any evidence that it was actually progressives staying home out of a protest vote that cost Kamala the election?
I don’t care whether it was the straw that broke the camel’s back or not.
They didn’t know whether they were making the difference or not when they cast, or didn’t cast, their vote. They’re fucking morons that knowingly jeopardized our democracy. Our rights. They deserve to be chastised.
You don’t care because you just want your five minutes of hate. The point is that the progressives you’re hating on did exactly what you claim you wanted them to do. They held their nose and voted for Harris. You’re just shit looking to shit on progressives.
As usual “vote blue no matter who” is a one-way street. Progressives will vote for moderates, but moderates will turn around and blame their failures on the very progressives who voted for them. It’s despicable. You’re no different than MAGA. You just wear a different color shirt.
We were told this was going to happen by those that are making it happen. And still 91 million people chose not to vote. Of those 91 million people- was enough make the difference between keeping out democracy, and….
This.
I hope the smug arrogance of your little protest of the trade-agreement support of weapons to a country committing genocide is going to be enough to keep you properly blinded to the suffering of so many others as a result of your stubborn refusal to see the bigger picture-
This is your fucking fault.
Liberals will blame anything but themselves
😭✊💦✊💦
The irony.
You’re so used to being outplayed and embarrassed by Republicans and so complacent with your horrible fucking leadership that your little rage boner trembles in fear in the face of your actual enemies and you can only muster it up for people who couldn’t stomach voting for the government actively killing their family members back home.
If you showed any spine an election ago, two elections ago, three elections ago, the Democratic leadership wouldn’t be shitting all over your face and chest.
You apes shout “vote blue no matter who!” In the face of GENOCIDE and act morally superior.
Don’t try to act tough you tiny person
And the ROFL! continues. You’re quite the wealth of hysterics, aren’t you?
Your first mistake is assuming you know someone from a few sentences on the internet. It clearly displays your ignorance, and only serves to confirm one’s decision to not bother engaging with you.
Your second mistake will be responding to this comment.
Whoa this guy is serious everyone watch out! He might get really mad and vote at me
Stop it. This sort of cope is completely unproductive. I understand that you need to find someone to blame but those are also the people you need to get out of this mess. You clearly couldn’t avoid it without them. Be like Mamdani - ask why, understand and if you’re gonna blame, blame the ones who actually hold power.
No. I will NOT stop it. Those that are responsible need to be called out. They shouldn’t get to hide amongst the victims of their shit decision.
When they can one by one, stand up- and take responsibility for their part- maybe I’ll stop. But as of yet, I haven’t seen even ONE of them own it. No, they just lean even harder into it, but I guess shame will do that.
Additionally, in case you haven’t been paying much attention, take a look around. You’ll see them here, shouting at everyone, blaming liberals/democrats… and yet, I don’t see you responding to them to “stop it.”
So, no, I don’t think I’ll stop it. All we have now- is to blame the responsible parties and hope that through shame and responsibility, they can be trusted not to make this same mistake the next time….
If there is ever a next time after this.
Yes. The people whose fault it is.
People don’t get to escape accountability just because we need their vote in a potential future election.
People will suffer and die because of these morons. I mean, everyone is going to suffer to some degree because of them. It’s entirely acceptable to call them out. Letting them escape accountability doesn’t fix anything. You don’t learn anything when your mistakes are brushed off and you’re embraced without acceptance of fault.
They acted like petty children. Now we’re all suffering. Some WAY more than others. Yes, fuck them.
Calling people out in this way does not typically result in corrective action. People do not get the conclusions they do because of their internal sources of wisdom. Instead they, and us, largely compute our conclusions based on the information we receive. The vast majority of that information is flowing via corporate channels, which funnel the right information to get corporate-friendly conclusions. The fact that me and you are talking on a socialist platform is such an outlier, driven by so much luck and extra work we’ve been able to do that it’s nothing short of a miracle. If the information reaching the people you call out doesn’t change, they won’t draw different conclusions and instead tell you to go fuck yourself, to your face, or at the ballot box. We can’t change the corporate channels at the moment. The only information that reaches them that could be different is our voices, through social channels. This is why I’m saying that we should use that to feed new information that could actually change their viewpoint. That information being callouts is not going to do that. Empathy, understanding, information, helping them see what we see could. This is a class war and we don’t have a chance if we fight our class. I assume you also work for a wage or a salary like me and most Trump voters.
Staying home on election day was a bad idea, sure.
But what about the dozens of millions of fucknuts who got off their ass to go vote FOR this?
If you think you can change their R to a D, be my guest. But to me, they’re a foregone conclusion. They were always going to vote for fascism.
Those on the fence, with their 3rd party protest votes and their refusal to do the bare minimum….
They could have made a difference.
They’re traitors to democracy, our Constitution, and the United States in general.
And hopefully they get what’s coming to them.
You are wrong.
Any evidence that it was actually progressives staying home out of a protest vote that cost Kamala the election? This seems like wishful thinking on the part of liberals. The polling I’ve seen and the progressives I know all held their nose and voted for Kamala. Kamala lost because she couldn’t convince enough low-engagement voters to come to the polls. They didn’t vote not because of genocide, but because they didn’t feel Kamala was going do anything to improve their lives. Biden won by adopting a lot of Bernie’s social welfare programs, and Kamala walked away from most of that. Obviously the concerns for democracy was real, but people value democracy a hell of a lot less than you might think. People have lost faith in democracy from cycle after cycle of their votes not mattering. They can either vote for a Republican that will help the rich or a Democrat that will help the rich a bit less.
Remember, the US doesn’t actually have any kind of meaningful mass democracy, and it never has. It is only the opinions of the top 5-10% wealthiest of the people that have any influence at all on actual policies that are passed. The poorest 90% of US citizens have never lived in a democracy. That’s why running on preserving democracy failed. Only the upper middle class and rich get democracy, so the working class saw no reason to fight for it.
I don’t care whether it was the straw that broke the camel’s back or not.
They didn’t know whether they were making the difference or not when they cast, or didn’t cast, their vote. They’re fucking morons that knowingly jeopardized our democracy. Our rights. They deserve to be chastised.
You don’t care because you just want your five minutes of hate. The point is that the progressives you’re hating on did exactly what you claim you wanted them to do. They held their nose and voted for Harris. You’re just shit looking to shit on progressives.
As usual “vote blue no matter who” is a one-way street. Progressives will vote for moderates, but moderates will turn around and blame their failures on the very progressives who voted for them. It’s despicable. You’re no different than MAGA. You just wear a different color shirt.
ROFL!
The same response you get from Trumpers when you point out any of their lies or comforting myths. Blue MAGA indeed.
ROFL.