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Savagegeese review
Thoughts? The Toyota truck fanbase is torn in half over these new generations of trucks.
if im getting a big truck i want a big engine with it, no ifs or buts
This is what the 3rd gen should’ve been. That shit was such a half step truck. You had the old chassis and body with a deep facelift, cheapened interior, and a powertrain that was arguably less stout then the previous 4.0 plus the 6 speed loved to stay in high gears.
It looks a million times better than the Tundra. Tundra is one of the ugliest trucks I’ve ever seen.
Nothing to Be Afraid Of
…except the $9950 ADM your local dealer wants to charge you.
That big assed air dam in front is going to be the first casualty. Looks like the blade on a road scraper. Don’t like the new look either.
Thoughts? The Toyota truck fanbase is torn in half over these new generations of trucks.
I wouldn’t say that.
It’s just pointless gatekeeping that small turbo bad, hybrid bad, truck peaked 1995 and been going down hill ever since
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“Hey new truck w all new drive train and transmission and body”
Those metal pedal covers, wtf are they thinking.
my SRT4 neon came with similar pads and I hated them. Incredibly slippery when wet…
This thing is also almost indiscernible from the colorado/canyon from some angles. lol.
Honestly it’s hilarious to see trucks move from NA V8 to turbo inline 4 cylinder engines. The relentless march of fleet efficiency regulations are changing everything.
The Taco never had a NA V8, only I4 or V6. The only model (so far) that typically has a V8 but now offers a turbo I4 as well is the Silverado/Sierra 1500, and even that one is only replacing the NA V6, not the V8s.
The Nissans still have the v8
Still can’t fit anyone in the back seat unless they’re Lieutenant Dan Taylor.
Current Tacos, 4Runners, and FJs all have the Reverse Tardis effect of terrible interior packaging and space utilization given their exterior dimensions. I was hoping that Toyota figured out that part but the all-new Sequoia is equally deficient.
It’s a safety thing. Older 4runners were the reverse of this because they had very thin side walls and a boxy shape, so to maximize cargo space (and in the process decrease safety). All old SUVs are like this.
Now you have to fit in a crumple zone, and airbags, and noise insulation, and blind spot sensors, and additional wiring. You’ll never see a vehicle that matches the spatial efficiency of itself 20 years ago because we require too much crap to be shoved in the sidewalls.
Now we’re shoving in batteries, so it will only get worse.
If people really want a V6 midsize truck get the Frontier.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. The frontier is exactly what midsize truck enthusiasts say they want.
People on this sub have a thing against Nissan
Unless you plan to keep this truck for 20 years I don’t see why you wouldn’t go with the new Canyon / Colorado. More interior space. More power and arguably more attractive exterior. I’m sorry but that taco chin guard is hideous. Also what’s going on with the rear seat in the Tacoma. Did it get smaller over the last generation?
If the Colorado had a hybrid option I think it would definitely be the better buy.
The people who seriously won’t buy it because it has a turbo are crazy. Acting like turbos are a new technology or something lol.
Most of the people complaining about potential reliability issues are just finding something to whine about. Let’s be honest if they really cared that much about reliability in a car, they would just buy a Corolla and call it a day. I bet 80% of those Tacomas are just mall crawlers that will never utilize the full bed or see a speck of dirt in their lifetime
“A hybrid?! From Toyota?! They’ve never done hybrids before! This will surely be unreliable! A turbo?! Even worse!”
More things to break and adding complexity to a system that’s been around for 20 years with no major problems!!! /s
People still act like turbos haven’t been refined over the last 40 years.
Does anyone know? What is the failure rate, or need for turbo replacement during a car’s lifespan? Is it a guaranteed must replace in 10, 15, or 20 years? Or do they tend to last the life of the vehicle?
Depends on the design and how the vehicle is cared for. Under normal operation, keeping up with maintenance (mainly making sure it has decent oil), typically the turbo will last the life of the vehicle.
Hoping the iforce max actually gets a decent jump in mpg vs basically no change in the tundra. They really dropped the ball on that.
People get really hung up on this, but Toyota has never claimed the hybrid in the Tundra was for gas mileage. In fact, you’ll notice that very specifically avoided putting the word “hybrid” anywhere on the truck at all, which was intentional.
Obviously it’s a tough spot to be in marketing wise when your company is known for hybrids for gas mileage, but unfortunately it’s more like “hyper car hybrid” where it exists primarily for boosting power in specific scenarios and any efficiency improvements are just a side bonus. But it’s Toyota, so nobody can really rationalize that idea in their head.