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How good do you make Ramsdale to be?
In my opinion he is a good keeper for a team in the 4th-8th range. His traditional goalkeeping is average for the league, and his distribution is good, but not so good that it makes up for it at the title challengng level.
He would be improve the level of Newcastle and Villa. Whilst there may be a fall off in aspects like shot stopping, I think he is good enough with his feet to take those teams up a level regardless.
The number of saves Emi,Pope,Leno and Pickford make is insane
Midtable/Relegation is a different ball game so i don’t think he improve them
Ramsdale needs attacking football to thrive
Not sure i agree with that. His most memorable games for me are against Liverpool and Spurs last season. I don’t think he is that good of a shot stopper but increased volume could help his focus.
Seems on the same level as Pope and Martinez.Doubt he improves them. Better than Sanchez, but Chelsea would probably try for someone better. Doesn’t leave many options for him.
How many clubs, that could probably want him, can afford his present wages and a transfer fee? Possibly Bayern.But I doubt they would want Arsenal’s 2nd choice GK to replace one of their greatest goalkeepers. I can count only 1 or 2 English clubs who could want him and can afford his wages.Ramsdale’s options are very limited, unless he is willing to take a huge paycut.
You’re probably right about Emi. But with the ball at his feet he is in a different level to Pope, particularly in short distribution where Pope is extremely nervy. If Newcastle want to transition to a game plan where they try to control all 90 minutes they will need a better ball playing keeper.
When we signed Ramsdale, my immediate impression was that he was an improvement on Leno, broadly speaking, but perhaps not enough of an improvement: that is, much as Leno was believed, when we signed him, to be an improvement on Cech, especially with respect to distribution, but not enough.
Arteta and Inaki surely believed they could improve him, and get him into that Ederson/Alisson tier; I don’t think anyone would agree they’ve yet succeeded. The question was always whether they felt his potential and his progress relative to that potential justified continuing that process. (This of course ignores the first class arr slash Gunners lunatic conspiracy theory that Inaki is deliberately sabotaging Ramsdale and all our other keepers to ‘get his guy’ Raya in.)
Looking at where he is now, in relation to other clubs (but irrespective of their current keeper situations) it’s probably a question of level and stylistic fit. Ramsdale could be a very good fit for clubs like Burnley or Bournemouth, but I don’t know that his shot stopping or command is good enough to help them do more than stay afloat. At Brighton or (amusingly) Brentford, in the midtable, he’d be a good fit and a lot less exposed.
You’re probably right that he’d improve Howe’s Saudcastle; I wonder about Unai’s Villa though. I suspect he’d have a disastrous time at Tottenham and Trafford.
In a curious way, I think we’ve been both a very good fit for him, and possibly not the best fit as a place to grow. He has improved, but, ot my mind, plateaued; that can happen when a player who needs to grow gets stuck trying to perform, week in and week out. I tend to take Arteta at face value when he said he wanted to keep both: that he believed playing less might, if Ramsdale was mentally equal to that challenge, have allowed him to push through with his development, and given him a real partner to push against in Raya. Possibly that is happening behind the scenes, but his dad would seem to be suggesting, at the very least, that there’s friction of a less than ideal sort.