Both chips are said to come with 96MB of L3 cache.
  • Felatio-DelToro@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    IF the 5700x3D has 65w TDP (I know, I know that means 88watts) that would be pretty neat and an instant buy from me.

  • capn_hector@alien.topOPBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    wow, much time-limited, very low-volume yield sku

    People are dumb and put way too much faith in obviously non-technical marketing statements lmao.

    6c stacks are not a defect, there is no stacking failure that leaves you with only one dead core but a working chip. 6c stack are specifically only stacked for 5600x3d, there was never a 6c stack used in epyc, people are just too dumb to actually look at and interpret the facts themselves if it contradicts an authority figure lmao

    the 5600x3d specifically exists as an artificial backstop to prevent 5800X3D prices from continuing to slide, and that has been obvious from day-1 despite the supposed “limited” nature of the SKU, but gosh, steve said the microcenter sales rep said, it was a yield sku, who am I to contradict a salesman???

    and again, that’s the same reason the 7900GRE exists, to control the price of 7900XT, which has also bounced up since the GRE was launched. and it turns out that is not a limited-volume or “china-only” SKU after all, either.

    • Nethlem@alien.topBEnglish
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      1 year ago

      the 5600x3d specifically exists as an artificial backstop to prevent 5800X3D prices from continuing to slide

      How is that supposed to work when the 5600x3d is only available in the US at Microcenters?

      That fringe existence doesn’t give it any relevance/impact for whole world market regions, i.e. Europe, where recently the 5800x3d went up in price, again, due to high demand.

    • Vanebader-1024@alien.topBEnglish
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      1 year ago

      6c stacks are not a defect, there is no stacking failure that leaves you with only one dead core but a working chip. 6c stack are specifically only stacked for 5600x3d

      WTF are you talking about? Zen cores aren’t stacked in any circunstance, Zen 3 exists in (planar, non-stacked) 8-core chiplet form, a 6-core Zen 3 chip (5500, 5600G, 5600, 5600X, 5600X3D…) is actually an 8-core Zen 3 chip with two cores disabled.

      The only thing that is stacked is the 3D cache on the X3D models. Whether cores are defective or not has nothing whatsoever to do with stacking, because cores are never stacked, they’re just ordinary 8-core chiplets.

    • Relevant-Cup2193@alien.topBEnglish
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      1 year ago

      they quit selling the asus b550-i because it doesnt work correctly with rtx4000 series and i think the aorus b550i has issues with usb drop outs.

      • madn3ss795@alien.topBEnglish
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        1 year ago

        My Aorus B550i no longer experience USB issues with F17 BIOS. Though Gigabyte do multiple revisions on the same board so not all revisions are guaranteed to be safe from this issue.

      • thoomfish@alien.topBEnglish
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        1 year ago

        In 20 years of self-built PCs I don’t think I’ve ever managed to find a motherboard that didn’t have some kind of fucked up USB issue.

  • cubs_rule23@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    OP, while your thoughts hold logic and are most likely correct with regards to a price stop gap: the delivery method in which you go about informing others is as you put it: npc tier.

    This is the internet where not everyone is aware of or cares about the business side of things at all. There may be a better suited sub to discuss this matter in, with users that are more inclined to this part of the industry.

    • capn_hector@alien.topOPBEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      that sub is literally r/hardware lmao, did you think this was r/pcgaming?

      common mistake!

  • AgeOk2348@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    the 5600x3d is currently $200 at microcenter, so the 5700x3d will probably slot in between 250 and 270. with the 5500x3d being sub 200

  • mmfc378@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I’ve been hoping for a 5900x3d since they said they still had plans for AM4 chips. It was just a rumor but I still had hope. Time for AM5 I guess

  • TK3600@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    5700x3d kinda awkward. worse performance than 5600x3d due to clocks, but if you care about cores you can do normal 5700x.

    • Its_Raul@alien.topBEnglish
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      1 year ago

      I mean 5600x3d is only in microcenter so that rules out a huge portion of buyers. I’d almost have to choice but to buy the 5700x3d (assuming it’s available to me)

      • SaintSausage69@alien.topBEnglish
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        1 year ago

        Hopefully with this launch comes an announcement of expanding the availability of the 5600X3D?

        snagged it from microcenter about a week ago for $157. Upgraded from my 3700X and oh boy… Crazy value!

  • siazdghw@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Not sure I really see the point at this point.

    In terms of performance the 5800x3D lost its gaming crown to raptor lake and Zen 4, which are also much better at MT and oddly cheaper (13600k, 7600(x), 7700x).

    The 5600x3D is on sale at Microcenter for $199, it couldnt even hold MSRP for 3 months. These new SKUs are bins with 400MHz less max boost, nearly a 10% decrease from the exist x3D SKUs. Zen 3 came out 3 years ago, and prices have nosedived so most people on AM4 probably already have Zen 3 at this point.

    I just dont see how these parts fit in. At Microcenter prices are:

    5800x3D: $319

    13600k: $269

    12700k: $269

    7600: $199

    12600k: $199

    5600x3D: $199

    5700x: $169

  • AgeOk2348@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Honestly a good swansong for am4. people that want an upgrade that can still go toe to toe with 14th gen intel for a cheap price get that upgrade, amd gets a bit more cash, heck some extreme budget builders may even do new am4 builds who knows.

    am4 is going to be the 1080ti of platforms