Jamie Carragher: You can make an argument that Unai Emery is the third best manager in this Premier League. If you back over the last 12 months since he came in at Villa, if you are talking about Man Utd, Aston Villa are a better coached team than United. There is no doubt about that.
If you forget about Unai at Arsenal and the easy comparison to Arteta, maybe he has a point. But as usual I think he’s just saying shit for headlines. Carragher is an idiot.
Is he better than De Zerbi? Pochetino? Ange? I don’t know.
How’s it for headlines? It’s literally spot on, De Zerbi and Ange have potential but they’ve won anything and Poch has never won anything besides the French league, while also being a massive bottlejob otherwise.
Emery’s record at Arsenal is a lot better than people make out.
The two years before he was appointed they finished 5th then 6th. In Emerys only full season he came 5th and got to the Europa league final. It’s well documented he wanted Zaha but the club decided to blow £80m of his budget on Pepe.
Arteta came in and finished 8th and scored less league goals than any Arsenal team in over 10yrs.
Arteta got given time which on paper Emery probably deserved more.
Ange has qualified for and managed at a world cup and won an Asian cup.
He delivered national silverware for the first time to Australia, with a dross side while under immense nationwide media scrutiny.
People diminish his Celtic accomplishments and fail to highlight the mess at Celtic when Ange first came in. Celtic lost/sold 18 first team players, lost the long term CEO, Hired a new one before he also randomly left 2 months later. Lost the whole recruitment and scouting team and just finished the previous COVID season 25 points behind Rangers. Ange also got hired after the start of pre-season, rocked up by himself with no backroom team and went on to win a double against a strong rangers team that got to the Europa league final. He played some of the best football seen in the last 30 years of Celtic Park. People don’t remember how shit Lennon was in 2020/21. Ange had to rebuild Celtic against a Rangers team that finished unbeaten and 25 points clear.
Ange has managed relegation sides into title winners within basically a season more than once for fun. And in salary capped leagues.
His Jleague Yoko Marinos dominated possession against Pep’s city when they played… it’s absurd.
Ange is a very good manager with a horrible record in Europe. You can’t blame that on having managed Celtic. Celtic are famously good in Europe. A much, much worse Rangers teams went to the Europa League finals, but Ange was exposed at that level repeatedly.
Ange is an excellent manager, but he’s not proved himself at the top level yet. He has a good track record but hasn’t done anything in Europe or England yet so no, we can’t adjudge him to be same level as Emery or anybody who has won anything in England or Europe.
Time will tell, but currently it’s not unreasonable to exclude him from the discussion.
Won the league in multiple countries / continents? Won a domestic treble? Won an international trophy? 3 premier league manager of the month awards in a row.
Emery has of course won the Europa league 4 times. But Ange has achieved plenty that Unai hasn’t.
Nothing that are of the equivalent that Emery has won. There’s loads of B level league managers with big trophy cabinets, great and they’ve done well for their level but they aren’t of the same value.
If you forget about Unai at Arsenal and the easy comparison to Arteta, maybe he has a point. But as usual I think he’s just saying shit for headlines. Carragher is an idiot.
Is he better than De Zerbi? Pochetino? Ange? I don’t know.
Yes he’s literally better than all three of the managers you’ve just mentioned
How’s it for headlines? It’s literally spot on, De Zerbi and Ange have potential but they’ve won anything and Poch has never won anything besides the French league, while also being a massive bottlejob otherwise.
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De Zerbi hasn’t won a PL game since September lol
Compare trophy cabinets of them.
Emery has won multiple European trophies hasn’t he?
Angelos needs to overtake David Moyes first never mind Emery.
Forget Ange, what has Poch won, what has he done in his career to make a case for him even being better than beheaddie Howe?
Emery’s record at Arsenal is a lot better than people make out.
The two years before he was appointed they finished 5th then 6th. In Emerys only full season he came 5th and got to the Europa league final. It’s well documented he wanted Zaha but the club decided to blow £80m of his budget on Pepe.
Arteta came in and finished 8th and scored less league goals than any Arsenal team in over 10yrs.
Arteta got given time which on paper Emery probably deserved more.
That 4-1 beating in the final against Chelsea did a lot of damage.
Also everyone knew Villa were a good team being pulled down by Steven Gerrard but Carragher isn’t going to criticise his mate.
Gerard made good players bad. Emery makes good players great.
Must be how he won the SPL.
And why he was snapped up by the mighty Al-Ettifaq to manage in the greatest league on earth, check and mate Gerrard doubters.
What has Ange done that Unai hasn’t?
Needs a better catchphrase. Mate is a bit boring.
Good Ebening
Ange has won 21 titles as a manager.
Ange has qualified for and managed at a world cup and won an Asian cup.
He delivered national silverware for the first time to Australia, with a dross side while under immense nationwide media scrutiny.
People diminish his Celtic accomplishments and fail to highlight the mess at Celtic when Ange first came in. Celtic lost/sold 18 first team players, lost the long term CEO, Hired a new one before he also randomly left 2 months later. Lost the whole recruitment and scouting team and just finished the previous COVID season 25 points behind Rangers. Ange also got hired after the start of pre-season, rocked up by himself with no backroom team and went on to win a double against a strong rangers team that got to the Europa league final. He played some of the best football seen in the last 30 years of Celtic Park. People don’t remember how shit Lennon was in 2020/21. Ange had to rebuild Celtic against a Rangers team that finished unbeaten and 25 points clear.
Ange has managed relegation sides into title winners within basically a season more than once for fun. And in salary capped leagues.
His Jleague Yoko Marinos dominated possession against Pep’s city when they played… it’s absurd.
Ange is a very good manager with a horrible record in Europe. You can’t blame that on having managed Celtic. Celtic are famously good in Europe. A much, much worse Rangers teams went to the Europa League finals, but Ange was exposed at that level repeatedly.
Ange is an excellent manager, but he’s not proved himself at the top level yet. He has a good track record but hasn’t done anything in Europe or England yet so no, we can’t adjudge him to be same level as Emery or anybody who has won anything in England or Europe.
Time will tell, but currently it’s not unreasonable to exclude him from the discussion.
Won the league in multiple countries / continents? Won a domestic treble? Won an international trophy? 3 premier league manager of the month awards in a row.
Emery has of course won the Europa league 4 times. But Ange has achieved plenty that Unai hasn’t.
Nothing that are of the equivalent that Emery has won. There’s loads of B level league managers with big trophy cabinets, great and they’ve done well for their level but they aren’t of the same value.