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People are so extreme regarding Havertz either declaring that he’s a complete bust or that he’s doing really well, and fighting with each other over these extreme views.
When actually it’s okay to acknowledge he has underperformed, but also okay to acknowledge it is 12 games into the season and we really don’t know if he’ll come right, but seeing as we’ve spent 65 mil on him I really hope he does.
I see plenty of people in here right in the middle with him. I think you’re just noticing the extremes
The problem is that fans are not applying the same evaluation metric on the new signing. If Rice can be said to worth the 100mil after 12 games , Havertz can be judged now.
That doesn’t mean they can’t be judged again after another X games.
Fair enough, I hope he comes good though.
He hasn’t justified his price and his finishing is atrocious. He was bought for final third things and he’s a bit slacking at them. That has to be said.
However, like Arteta said, he’s doing good at everything else. He has held fort in positions/responsibilities people didn’t give him a chance in. Almost half of his minutes have come with the responsibility of offering solidity to the team, instead of primarily offence.
His game Vs Newcastle is how he should have started his career here. That’s the Kai Havertz we had in mind. But we are playing him everywhere after years of playing in a disjointed side.
People are far more overly defensive of him than they are overly critical, poor performances get praised, when an average performance is called average (like vs Newcastle) people call you a “hater”
Yep the DD is just full of people randomly shoehorning how great Havertz is while no one ever just randomly starts shitting on him…
Come on mate.
It’s not “randomly starting shitting on him” to criticise a poor/average performance.
His only good performances have been him doing Fellaini stuff vs Chelsea and arguably City.
When people criticising him stops being classed as randomly shitting on him or “hate” I’ll stop thinking the overly defensive people have more sway here.