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    Mx. is a confusing title. How is it pronounced? “X” is an obnoxious letter choice to try to genericize gender.

    But the article shows this teacher tried several other reasonable titles, like “professor” and “teacher” that were also denied. That’s ridiculous, and clearly just targeting them.

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      Please explain how you’d know how to pronounce Mrs as missus\mizzes without someone explaining it? It’s no more confusing than that archaic bullshit.

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        They’re abbreviations for master and mistress. Of course those are archaic etymologies, but that’s how they evolved into abbreviations.

        The strange thing is that Mx is an abbreviation that doesn’t have a basis in a word as far as I know. It’s literally conforming to those heteronormative traditions and adapting them with an “X” bandaid.

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          Mr./Mrs. are evolutions of language, like you said. They don’t really refer to the original words for the most part. Mx. is an evolution of the same language and just as easy to pronounce. Sure, it’s a “bandaid” if you want to call it that, but the English language is 90% bandaids. To rule out this one when there isn’t a good alternative for general use (prof. or teacher would be fine for this person, but not for someone who’s not a teacher) is pretty narrow minded.

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        Mr/Ms/Mrs all makes sense.

        Mr -> You are a male

        Ms -> You are a female

        Mrs -> You are a married female

        Mx -> You uhh feel like you are neither male or female or something. keyword being “feel”. The 3 above all are objective characteristics. The latter is not.

        An adult should be able to teach kids without feeling the need to impose their own wacky views on them. Just use mr or ms. You are an adult, you can handle it.

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      You not knowing how to pronounce something isn’t reason enough for it not to exist.

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        I’m not saying it is, but it should be enough to start a discussion on whether there’s a better, more easily pronouncable term while we’re in a discussion about titles.

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          If I really think about it, what makes Mr. Or Ms. any easier to pronounce? They are actually a bit less intuitive because they are abbreviations.

          As far as two letters go, I feel like Mx. is just one step removed from Mix, so it seems easy to me. Perhaps Mr. and Ms. are just easier to accept because we have lived with them our whole life. A lot of the English language seems weird when we step outside of it.

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            Mr. is derived from master and Ms. is derived from mistress. Their pronunciation is derived from their etymology.

            I agree though that common usage plays a part.

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              Master and Mr are different in usage, the former for young people (under 18).

              Ms is pronounced with the /z/ sound, not the ‘s’ in mistress.

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          I’m all for the “Ey”, “em”, “eir” pronouns, but I don’t have a stake in the game.

          For example,

          Ey worked as a teacher for the school until ey was fired for using neutral pronouns. Eir opinion stated in an interview was that e will not change how e refers to emself.

          English needs gender neutral pronouns because they can be useful in a situation such as needing to refer to a person named Smith, but don’t know their gender. (“They, them, their” should be reserved for groups, imo).

          “Mey.” Or “Mer.” could be the solution for a title in this situation.

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            Seems a hell of a lot easier to just use “they/them” as we already do. If it were too confusing, it would evolve into something else naturally anyway. German gets by just fine with “they” and the formal form of “you” being the same. I think we’ll be fine.

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            Singular they has existed for centuries, and been used that way for centuries. In normal usage, it should be obvious from context whether you’re using singular or plural.

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      I live in MA and have an X marker. I really like it? It’s a common variable, and I like the relationship.

      I usually say Mixter, but it’s English so it’s all made up.