• phlegmy@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Getting everyone’s basic needs met is more of a centre-left ideology.
    Many centre-right parties believe in things like public healthcare, because it has a net-benefit to the economy.

    Centrists don’t sit in the middle of every issue or make an exact 50/50 compromise on everything. That’s a really poor strawman argument from someone who clearly doesn’t understand global politics.

    I guess you’re confused with people in the U.S who think having views somewhere in-between those of democrats and republicans makes you a centrist.
    That U.S-specific ‘centrism’ is really just right wing politics.

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    3 months ago

    Americans are so far to the right that minimum wage, affordable housing, free schools and healthcare is considered “far left”. These are given and common sense in the rest of the world 🤣

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    3 months ago

    Far left: everyone must conform to my world view

    Far right: everyone must conform to my world view

    Centrist: just leave me alone

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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      Social murder is still murder, centrist.

      If your policy causes people to die from preventable illness or homelessness or police violence you aren’t just being “left alone” - you’re killing people.

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    Still waiting on that basic need.

    Biden built entire wings onto for-profit hospitals during Covid, while ironically being against universal healthcare. Almost like his donors didn’t want it or something.

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    A more real scenario.

    European country bans far right candidate with conections with Russia trying to poison their democracy.

    Le centrists: What about muh freedoms!?.

    US Government forces Universities campuses to remove degrees of students for protesting (by threatening cutting funds) and threatens foreign students with deportation if they protest.

    Edit: Just read the news that an University caved to Trump’s demands to be able to get funds. Among the demands is for police to be able to arrest students.

    Le centrists: Well they were asking for it…

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    That’s not even far on the left, that’s just some middle of the ground left. Real far left would be burning government buildings while having a heated discussion about the order of the colors for the flag to be raised over the rubble.

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      Thank you, I know lemmy is left leaning and so am I but let’s not lose our touch with reality here. People can downvote as much as they want but I’d say you’re objectively right. Or does anyone want to place some counter argument instead of downvoting? Because I can’t think of any

      • Bloomcole@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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        You’re right except that my (EU) view of Lemmy is that it’s not really left leaning.
        The large amout of anti-Trump/Musk post doesn’t make it so.
        A large part of it is US dems/libs making those posts. They are center-right at best.
        And I should know since I point that out to them and see the reaction.
        Massive downvotes and an avalanche of vicious comments.

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    The underlying split is that the right wants a homogenously united community while the left is united in the acceptence of their differences. This makes me wonder why the right doesn’t want communism. Could this be like homosexuality, that the right secretly wants it and just doesn’t dare to say it?

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      Most right wing voters, right now, practice community level communism, or at least a communal sharing economy.

      But you gotta understand that for more than a hundred years now a huge amount of tax payer and corporate money has funded the single largest propaganda campaign in world history, associating the words socialism and communism with every single bad thing that could be described using literary, visual, or audio mediums.

      Add this to a society that was already made up of some of the most religious and socially conservative (read shame oriented) people in almost world history, and you have a permanent brainwashing switch that gets flipped on mere mention of specific words.

      • Bloomcole@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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        If you want a good example of how much they hate it and are apparently even affraid of mentioning it in the US, just go to the US holocaust memorial museum website.
        They have the Martin Niemöller poem on the wall… more or less.
        Less actually since they omitted the first sentence: First they came for the communists.
        Not even mentioned in the article on the website.
        Imagine that, jews doing revisionism.
        Now if you click on the German version of the article you get the right version.
        They knew what they were doing.
        Americans can not see or hear the C word under any circumstances.