San Diego (and all its suburbs), Los Angeles (and all its suburbs), San Francisco, etc. etc. etc. Basically any major city in wealthyish states.
its not controversial, its just that there’s a variance in cost of living, based on where you are in the US. Last I heard, a few years ago, one million was the absolute minimum that you needed.
Try Googling “How much do I need to retires on?” and see the answers that you get.
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The issue being discussed is not of someone can move or not, is if a million dollars is enough money to retire.
The argument I’m putting up is that in most places a million dollars is not enough, that you would have to relocate to places that have very inexpensive cost of living and the quality that goes along with it.
For some reason people keep assuming I’m talking about the ability to move or not.
I guess it boils down to “do you own your own house and have you finished paying for it?”
Because if the answer is no, the question is entirely geographical. You could need ten times the amount to retire.
Once you own your own bricks and mortar, the equation balances out a lot more. Things like electricity and food tend to cost a similar amount no matter where you are in the country. I’d say a million in liquid assets, with no debts, would be enough to retire on in most places, as long as you don’t have any ridiculous outlier outgoings.
maybe not san fransisco but in most parts of the us you can retire off $1m can’t believe this is controversial
San Diego (and all its suburbs), Los Angeles (and all its suburbs), San Francisco, etc. etc. etc. Basically any major city in wealthyish states.
its not controversial, its just that there’s a variance in cost of living, based on where you are in the US. Last I heard, a few years ago, one million was the absolute minimum that you needed.
Try Googling “How much do I need to retires on?” and see the answers that you get.
Fidelity says the following …
And even they call that formula “ambitious”.
You can move. Nobody is tethered to their place of birth.
Doesn’t even have to be a shithole.
The issue being discussed is not of someone can move or not, is if a million dollars is enough money to retire.
The argument I’m putting up is that in most places a million dollars is not enough, that you would have to relocate to places that have very inexpensive cost of living and the quality that goes along with it.
For some reason people keep assuming I’m talking about the ability to move or not.
I guess it boils down to “do you own your own house and have you finished paying for it?”
Because if the answer is no, the question is entirely geographical. You could need ten times the amount to retire.
Once you own your own bricks and mortar, the equation balances out a lot more. Things like electricity and food tend to cost a similar amount no matter where you are in the country. I’d say a million in liquid assets, with no debts, would be enough to retire on in most places, as long as you don’t have any ridiculous outlier outgoings.
Then… don’t live in the most expensive places to live in the USA? All those places are NOTORIOUSLY expensive.
The topic being discussed was if one million dollars is enough to live in expensive areas of the country.
If you move away from expensive areas of the country, then the dollar amount needed to retire becomes less.
this was the original statement being discussed
I was replying to specific comments on another topic, which was the following…
… and …
You can retire off a million dollars easily. Just not in the most notoriously expensive places in the USA. What exactly is your argument?
so there wasn’t an argument, just being pedantic