• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    13 hours ago

    “So, I just went to this place and became part of their pack and they give me food, head massages and belly rubs every day”

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    My dog has severe anxiety and she came from a backyard puppy mill, my husband recused her and she holds him in such high esteem because of it, it’s so sweet. It’s like she never stopped being grateful to him as we are to have her in our lives.

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      Mine gives a tiny thank you lick every time we give him food. It’s been 13 years now…

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      It sounds like your husband shopped for a dog, presumably a specific breed you specifically wanted, instead of adopting.

      And completely regardless of the circumstances at the business you chose to purchase your specific animal from, you’re calling it ‘rescuing’ to make yourself feel better.

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        Does it make you feel better to assume the worst so you can accuse others of being shitty?

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          Well they are the ones who said they went to purchase a dog from a breeder, so I didn’t really make any assumptions. But I did suggest that the context of their circumstances that I’m not aware of are pretty much irrelevant.

          And no, animals being euthanized without adoption or getting bred in awful conditions by terrible people with more interest in money than animal welfare doesn’t make me feel good at all.

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            They used the words “rescued” which typically doesnt mean “purchased”, so you are making assumptions and being intentionally hostile to a commenter.

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            All they said is that the dog came from a puppy mill, not the rest of the circumstances that led to their husband getting the dog. You assumed “came from puppy mill” meant “purchased from puppy mill” when it could have been seized from a puppy mill and that’s how it ended up in s shelter, or another person could have been the original owner and the shelter had the dog’s history and was able to say where it was bred.

            You’re assuming they used “rescued” in bad faith just to accuse them of using it in bad faith when it more likely implies one of the other options.

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    My old dog freaked out when I just walked past his cage at the shelter; I hadn’t even been planning to get a dog, but it was clear that he had picked out me in particular. Then he always had separation anxiety from me for the rest of his life. My new dog is nice and I guess it’s good that she doesn’t have anxiety like he did, but I feel that if I just gave her to another person who also took care of her well, she wouldn’t be particularly upset.

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      We had a rescue street dog who was constantly escaping. He ended up living with another family for a few weeks because they’d never heard of id chips. When we eventually traced him and went to pick him up, he looked quite peeved. He conveyed “oh ffs not you” from his side-eye very effectively. They’d been giving him roast dinners and letting him sleep on their bed.

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      Some dogs choose their person, some can accept several people that way, some will just love everyone equally. The third type is easier in several ways, but the first type is the one that breaks you, when they pass.

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        Yup. I rescued my dog. Literally saved his life. I always felt he loved me, right up until he met my wife. Lol. He immediately became her dog. But the same happened in reverse with me and her cat. We essentially swapped. Both of these animals passed this year. It was really hard for us.

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        My rescue dog truly loves everyone. He’s super friendly and extremely social. If he had his way we’d spend all day walking the streets finding humans and dogs to meet (on a typical day he only gets 1-2 hours of this). He has friends across our neighborhood he visits. Seriously, there are a dozen or two people I don’t know at all but he leads me to anytime he smells them nearby because they are his friends–they pet him, play with him, and give him birthday and holiday presents. But I am also without question his favorite person. He will walk away from a crowd of adoring fans with treats if I’m leaving his sight. He is a smart people pleaser but checks with me before obeying commands from others, even my husband. He would probably follow me into a volcano. He’s such a great dog our friends argue about who gets to dog sit him when we go on vacation, but they also always tell me he seemed a little sadder without me around.

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        Yeah, to be honest I’m not sure I should have gotten a new dog. I’m certainly not going to give her back to the shelter and it has only been a couple of months so maybe things will change over time, but we don’t have a bond the way I had with my old dog from day one. Some of that is because she has a different personality, and some might be because I’m just not as open to bonding.

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          Mine took a year to bond. That said if you own multiple dogs over a lifetime there while always be that one that was special.

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          We had two dogs, one old that passed from old age and one young that died suddenly to tetanus of all things. Both bonded with my wife, they adored her. They were GSDs who didn’t like too much touch but would lay on her.

          We got a couple dogs afterward and neither of them have bonded with her. They like her and love her as part of the pack but it’s not the same. They’ll never go back as they’re “my” dogs now but it hurts to see

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          Yeah, in just a couple months the dog might not even have started showing their “normal” behaviour yet. Sometimes it takes a looong time before they get truly comfortable with the new environment, even if they seem to be doing just fine, and that naturally can affect the relationship they have with the owners. All relationships are different, and that applies to relationships with dogs too… Living together, and you both growing to learn each other’s personalities and all, will likely change things over time.

          If you felt, you do not like the dog at all, then giving up is a good thing, though, no matter what some people say. All dogs deserve a home where they are loved, and sometimes finding a better place for them, is the greatest act of love you can give.

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            I like the dog, but I feel sort of how I felt about my sister’s dog when I took care of him for a couple of months while my sister traveled. I enjoyed having him around and we had fun together, but the thought of giving him back to my sister didn’t upset me and I wasn’t sad after I did. If somehow it turns out that my new dog ran away from a loving family and they found out that I had her, I don’t think it would be difficult for me to give her back to them.

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      I adopted a street dog mama, and I swear she has zero attachment to us. She repeatedly will just follow whoever and try to jump in starngers cars if we aren’t watching her.

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      This is my concern too. I’ve had mine for a looong time, but not their entire life. When I adopted them they were in a bad state. It took a lot of love and trust to build them back up and there is something undeniably unique about our bond. I hope I go before they do, but that’s unlikely. In the likely scenario that they go first, I can’t imagine having that same bond with another pet. I obviously would prefer no animal has to experience what they went through, but there is just no way our bond will be as deep.

      I feel a little messed up saying that because obviously every relationship is different, and I’m sure most furry friends are capable of deep love, but I will never be able to demonstrate my love the same way to an animal that doesn’t need that help. If they never needed to be carried, how will they know I will be there when they do? My little one knows I will care for them through anything and I just want them all to know that without having to have experienced the need for it.

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        I always hope my dogs go before I do. I’ll take the feeling of loss so they don’t have to.

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          I always tell everyone, that if I suddenly die, they must allow my pets to see my corpse, so they know. Many animals do understand, and leaving them forever waiting, is even worse, than just losing you.

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          What a truly heart wrenching comment. Made me tear up. Now I feel like a bad mom. I can’t change my inability to imagine a life without them, but damn I’m going to steal that sentiment and at least pretend like I’m a better person than I am from now on.

          Hope you and all your pets get to live together forever.

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            Sorry I did not mean to make you feel that way. I’ve dealt with a lot of loss in my life and I know I can handle it and don’t want to burden others (especially my dogs) with that feeling.

            Hope you and yours the same. Know they love you and that’s all that matters.

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        My little guy was generally a happy, friendly dog who didn’t appear to have any trauma (beyond whatever issues ending up in an animal shelter itself causes) although I was told that he had been adopted before and then returned to the shelter because he was rather high-maintenance. By “high-maintenance” I mean that he expected to share my food, sleep in my bed, sit on my lap (he wasn’t a small dog), and spend most of the day next to me, not that he had to be nursed back to health. But still whenever he saw something unfamiliar or scary, he would look at me and if I was calm he would be calm too. I could even go watch fireworks with him. It was always clear to me that I was special to him, even from funny stuff like how when we visited my grandparents, he would go sleep next to my grandfather because my grandfather went to bed early, but then when he would hear me going to bed he would abandon my grandfather and run to me.

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    In nature, a new family is formed when two orphans stumble into each other’s hunt and communicate well enough to hunt together instead of hunt each other. So when you adopt a pet, take it to your hunting grounds and don’t kill it, it just knows it is now your family.

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    I mean, the dog has never known freedom, so why would it care which slavemaster it has?

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      Look I get where you’re coming from but when it comes to dogs, we already have billions of them and they need homes. They cant just all be let loose, it’s not feasible. The time to stop the problem was thousands of years ago, so it’s too fucking late. Do your fucking part and adopt a shelter dog.

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        We can sterilize them so that the existing dogs we have can live their best possible lives but so this does not become an continuing and increasing problem.

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          So you take issue with pet ownership as a form of slavery, but are perfectly fine with forced sterilization?

          Super consistent.

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          …my dude pick a lane. Animals deserve natural rights and freedoms, okay no pets no forced sterilization. Animals don’t deserve natural rights and freedoms, pets are okay and so is forced sterilization. You’re in a wired middle lane.

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            My lane is dogs with jobs are a wonderful innovation and boon to humanity but those that are “just pets” are a social scourge needlessly costing us money and resources that could be applied to humanity as well as furthering the goal of the powerful of killing empathy and human connection by replacing our innate need for connection with a pathetic fascimilie.

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              I love when people blatantly post insane and self-contradictory takes so I can block them and never have to see their terrible opinions in another comment section. Makes it nice and easy

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              You are severely discounting what the love of a pet can give you in return.

              In a lot of ways, my dog saved my life. I genuinely don’t know if I would be here if it wasn’t for my dog.

              My dog keeps me going when I’m having a bad day because they need me.

              I’m a big proponent of a charity that tries to keep homeless owners with their pets.

              The love of a pet can absolutely save lives and give people a reason to not give up on trying.

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                I’m glad you found purpose in the responsibility of caregiving. Truly. But that doesn’t mean your dog loves you, I’m sorry. It is an animal whose entire existence is dependent upon you, and a child of a long line of selective breeding and conditioning designed specifically to perform for you. You chose your dog, your dog had no voice in the matter.

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                  Also, after thinking about it, your argument isn’t really that different than a baby small child being preconditioned to love its family without the cognitive ability to do so.

                  Don’t love your mom? Well that wasn’t your choice. You were unfairly preconditioned to do so against your will.

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                  My point wasn’t whether the dog loves me or not (he does). I was countering your implication that pets have no value and are a social scourge.

                  Your view point is incredibly narrow and shortsighted.

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              This is such a weird (bad) take. Companion (pet) dogs do have jobs, for a lot of us. They offer comfort through hard times, help us get outside and exercise, stay on a routine, and they ARE empathetic. When I cry, my dog knows I am upset and comes to me. She offers me empathy, even though she doesn’t understand what’s wrong. It’s not a substitute for human companionship, but it’s way better than being alone entirely.

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              Oh I see you one of those type of people. Endlessly complain about something that you know nothing about, and then when you’re actually educated, you move the goal posts so you sound like you still have some sort of point.

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          I want to have a pet dog but neutering is a sticky subject for me. The reason for the why is obvious, but it’s inherently morally dubious to do it. First, dogs didn’t consent to be neutered. Snuffles is right to ask. And second, imagine humans are made pets by more powerful beings and we get neutered.

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      I’m pretty sure my dogs are my slave masters. I do their bidding 24/7.

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        crazy to think the whole video is one uncut take with so many people getting their cues and timing perfect while walking backwards, including the cameraman, and if the grandma on the skateboard at the end took a spill then the whole take is scrapped