I like how she had to throw out “ensign” to remind him of his place.
Tbh, I prefer a direct rejection instead of having to guess.
That being said, I understand why women aren’t direct. Their safety is more important than alleviating my anxiety.
I’ve tried being direct. I’m a direct person, and very much unconcerned with my safety, apparently. Don’t really think about safety before mouthing off. Probably should, but meh. I’d have to be a different me, and that’s not happening.
For the record, I’m not saying any of this applies to you at all. Just my experience and observations.
Dudes who choose not to hear a soft no (something they understand in every other context, because that’s normal human interaction stuff) also don’t want to hear a hard no.
For example, I was once leaving a place I’d gone to get food. I was reading comic books while sitting at the bar, and didn’t talk to anyone but staff. Nobody tried, including me. It was clear to anyone who looked that I was not there to socialize.
On my way out, some dude was like “hey baby!” From across the parking lot. I didn’t even turn around and yelled “not interested!”. He replied “I’m not trying to fuck you, bitch” (rofl, sure) so in my gushiest most sing-song mocking voice “not interested in a conversation either!” To which I got “no wonder you sat here alone”
No shit? Like… so you got all the cues I wanted to be left alone and STILL bothered me? But not until I was away from the safety of other people?
That’s why women don’t bother being direct. Dudes already pick up that they aren’t interested, they just ignore it. Safety doesn’t even necessarily need to factor in. Being direct is difficult to do because humans almost never directly say no, and it is ignored anyway, so why bother doijg the hard thing if they are just gunna be assholes anyway?
Growing up as a closeted gay boy in a patriarchal area, I was so confused by how women rejecting men was portrayed in movies. Why are they such bitches? I wondered. Then I became an adult and started dating.
She already said “work performance” - no need to repeat herself there!?1
Even tho he works pretty damn hard, her research led her astray simply because Harry never received any promotions.
Well… net zero anyway:-).
That’s the problem with being too competent: They don’t want to promote you out of that position, because nobody could do it better. Promote the mediocre ones, that nobody will miss, and maybe their replacement will be an improvement.
He had his chance already when she asked him to disrobe in season 4.
My first thought as well. Though I get why he choked. There’s something icky about sleeping with a person that you know is essentially a child socially. Even if they’re way smarter and more technically knowledgeable than you in every way.
Also obviously traumatized, yeah. I don’t get why some people act like he’s a looser for declining.
The most screen time Harry Kim ever saw
Seven is sexualized way too much.
Seven was introduced to the show to be sexualized. I’m not saying it’s right, or good, I am saying that was the intended purpose. They put her in a skin tight suit with tailored individual boob support.
Her story and character are clearly strong enough that sex was not the only intended purpose. I think they found a jack of all trades in Jeri Ryan.
It was Rick Berman’s only intended purpose. He mandated a sexy Borg, but Jeri Ryan and the Voyager writers actually stepped up and made something of it.
Poor Harry. Except for that one lieutenant that tried to destroy all of reality. That Harry was a real asshole.
“The Doctor sings opera and you dont see us having dinner either. If you’ll excuse me, im gonna go bone a hologram of your boss.”
Side note, i did enjoy seeing her and Chakotay actually start dating. It was sweet.
I miss the Chakotay / Janeway will they won’t they tension
Yeah, it was heartwarming. Kinda always got the feeling it was sorta one way, though - Janeway seemed to consider it more than Chakotay.
Poor Kathryn. 7 years in the Delta Quadrant and all she got was an Irish hologram and a factory worker.actually i guess she got more action than most post-Kirk captains lolAnd the snooty anti-psychic fascist.
Tom Paris too!
They were lizards, doesn’t count.
Ooh i forgot about that dickhead
the episode where they got stranded on a planet because of the virus, i am pretty sure chakotay was into it as well.
He was full-on nesting, waiting for her to see the reality of the situation.
She always made my clock tick more than Seven ever did, I wish we got more Janeway fanservice
she was more interested in a monkey than on Chakotay
it was totally out of nowhere and made zero sense.
