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Reddit’s CEO said that when he returned in 2015, he had to remind employees to work hard.
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There’s a tendency in the US tech industry to place idealism above hard work, he said.
Idealistic people work harder than anyone—for idealistic causes.
They don’t work so hard for companies that betray their idealism.
It’s so absurd for them to think they are going to get people to work harder without idealism.
I got fired for working “hard”. Excuse me karen it’s nature body function.
Working harder isn’t very scalable. Working more productively can be, but almost always requires investment.
A lot of people don’t understand what productivity means and often use it interchangeably with working harder. However from the owner’s perspective, getting salaried workers to work more hours, assuming the extra hours produce marginally more output is net new profit. As they’re seeking ever increasing profit, that’s one lever they have to push to get some growth. The next one on the labour side is decreasing salaries.
Working harder (if overtime is uncompensated) does increase productivity. But it’s an abusive and ineffective or even counterproductive practice. I used to lead a service line within a medium-sized consulting firm, and I made it clear to managers reporting to me that forcing their staff into extended overtime in order to meet milestones would get those managers sacked for bad planning. It only took a couple firings before the other managers started taking it seriously. The biggest problem was managers bidding jobs with the clients that assumed the whole squad would be working 60-70 hours weekly. That’s burning out our people to take on work which, if correctly estimated, wouldn’t be profitable for the firm. And that leaves zero contingency for when something goes wrong, which it often does.
But the moronic frat boys who run many IT firms and consultancies still try that One Simple Trick, on the assumption that if they burn out their staff, there are always more suckers who can be found to replace them.
If I have a job, I’m not going to jump through my asshole just to enrich some Sand Hill Road greedhead unless there’s something substantial in it for me.
I was idealistic at my current place. Then my manager and another key person left, and it all went out the window. Even when they were here, I was still more idealistic than was realistic. But my manager helped channel that.
Now I feel betrayed and sidelined and stifled. Disillusioned. Totally unnecessary too.
I joined a company a decade ago thinking “meh” but discovered a fantastic work env. The mandate changed: make XYZ suck less. That’s it. It was kinda a startup within a stuffy 100-year-old setup. And yeah, we worked like freed slaves. But then, same, the stuffy people wanted to helm the awesome, committed a coup, and installed feckless morons on place of our command team.
Soooo I left, along with about half the staff. It wasnt idealism so much as an environment of respect and support, but it fell apart fast when the good people were tossed.
Guy who never worked hard in his life tries to tell other people to work hard.
Yes sometimes these guys (CEOs) do longer hours, but it consits of eating dinner with other Cs, looking at presentations (which they cant judge because they generally have no idea how the actual business runs), sitting in meeting, flying to other meetings and pretending to look at some company numbers and of course having the very very high responsibility that they keep talking about that they actually never ever have.
Does this mean they should make x50 or more than the average worker ? You judge that.
Does this mean they should make x50 or more than the average worker ?
x50?
Pigboy gave himself a $193 million bonus. Do you think the average reddit worker made $3.86 million?
I can’t remember who it was, but sometime in the last few years a VC or CEO wrote an article documenting their day and how they “worked 12 hours a day” or something like that. What I remember most is that their accounting of their work included their time at the gym, at least one meal, and something else that few if any employers would consider “working time”.
I agree that sometimes C-suite execs do work long hours sometimes, and I’ll differ from you in that sometimes those long hours are legitimate and valuable for a company. IMO, it’s not the norm nor is it generally worth the premium that most companies pay for those hours.
It’s always funny seeing these silicon valley startups have essentially zero retained employees and engineers except the CEO.
All money machines built on the backs of long gone engineers that only exist because they’ve cornered their share of the oligopoly market.
THEY FINally decided to get rid of most tech employees in 2023
Ah yes, Steve showing his true colors.
“Forget moral convictions or a greater purpose than self enrichment. Reddit is public now baby, this thing makes money, not societal progress!”
And in the vacuum, Lemmy rises up.
Former mod of /r/jailbait says what?
He was?
Yes.
(But it wasn’t his choice, someone added him.)
(But he didn’t remove himself either.)
Comment of the day
This guy has a face in need of a fist, as the German saying is translated.
“Employees tend to forget that the entire purpose of life is to run yourself ragged for some dipshit who has obtained entirely way too much wealth and will never stop demanding more. It’s like they just don’t get it. WORK HARDER! I DEMAND TRIBUTE!”
Classic hypocritical neoliberal mindset: You don’t owe anyone anything, except your company, who owes nothing to you.
Fuckin’ wannabe Muskrat.
Yep. Exactly. Before Elon went full Nazi and during the API riots, he said that he wants reddit to be like X and run like how musk operates it
Maybe people should go back to “not working very hard” because Reddit has spiraled into a shit hole ever since it’s users became ad revenue generators.
Fuck Steve Huffman, fuck Reddit, Nazi sympathizing shithole website.
I shadow banned everyone except bots and now my company sucks but NobOdY WaNts To WOrK ANYmOre
They just outright ban people now. Been a Reddit user with zero problems for well over a decade, like 13 years, I’m now banned completely for upvoting Luigi content and saying I was surprised Kanye hadn’t murder/suicided Kim or Taylor yet which is apparently promoting violence. They’re really going out of their way to purge users.
Funny. I said I didn’t understand why CIA hadn’t killed Trump yet. That is also promoting violence, I guess… If you completely ignore all the people they’ve killed in the past with a worse reason than what Trump has done specifically to the CIA.
The least they could’ve done was banning me for when I said Trump deserves to hang upside down for an extended amount of time in piñata hanging height.
This is your brain on capitalism
He got how much for ruining the site and profiting off years of its users’ work?
140mil-240ish million from dumping his shares.
9 digits, I believe
Glad I deleted my account. Fuck reddit.
Reddit died with Aaron Schwartz
Well I guess he’s effected some change there in that he’s got me working hard to avoid reddit.
