Reddit's CEO said employees had a tendency to put big-picture idealism before business.

  • Reddit’s CEO said that when he returned in 2015, he had to remind employees to work hard.

  • There’s a tendency in the US tech industry to place idealism above hard work, he said.

  • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Idealistic people work harder than anyone—for idealistic causes.

    They don’t work so hard for companies that betray their idealism.

    • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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      2 months ago

      It’s so absurd for them to think they are going to get people to work harder without idealism.

        • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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          2 months ago

          A lot of people don’t understand what productivity means and often use it interchangeably with working harder. However from the owner’s perspective, getting salaried workers to work more hours, assuming the extra hours produce marginally more output is net new profit. As they’re seeking ever increasing profit, that’s one lever they have to push to get some growth. The next one on the labour side is decreasing salaries.

    • paraphrand@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      I was idealistic at my current place. Then my manager and another key person left, and it all went out the window. Even when they were here, I was still more idealistic than was realistic. But my manager helped channel that.

      Now I feel betrayed and sidelined and stifled. Disillusioned. Totally unnecessary too.

      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
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        2 months ago

        I joined a company a decade ago thinking “meh” but discovered a fantastic work env. The mandate changed: make XYZ suck less. That’s it. It was kinda a startup within a stuffy 100-year-old setup. And yeah, we worked like freed slaves. But then, same, the stuffy people wanted to helm the awesome, committed a coup, and installed feckless morons on place of our command team.

        Soooo I left, along with about half the staff. It wasnt idealism so much as an environment of respect and support, but it fell apart fast when the good people were tossed.

  • Kekzkrieger@feddit.orgEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Guy who never worked hard in his life tries to tell other people to work hard.

    Yes sometimes these guys (CEOs) do longer hours, but it consits of eating dinner with other Cs, looking at presentations (which they cant judge because they generally have no idea how the actual business runs), sitting in meeting, flying to other meetings and pretending to look at some company numbers and of course having the very very high responsibility that they keep talking about that they actually never ever have.

    Does this mean they should make x50 or more than the average worker ? You judge that.

    • DefederateLemmyMl@feddit.nl
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      2 months ago

      Does this mean they should make x50 or more than the average worker ?

      x50?

      Pigboy gave himself a $193 million bonus. Do you think the average reddit worker made $3.86 million?

    • egerlach@lemmy.caEnglish
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      2 months ago

      I can’t remember who it was, but sometime in the last few years a VC or CEO wrote an article documenting their day and how they “worked 12 hours a day” or something like that. What I remember most is that their accounting of their work included their time at the gym, at least one meal, and something else that few if any employers would consider “working time”.

      I agree that sometimes C-suite execs do work long hours sometimes, and I’ll differ from you in that sometimes those long hours are legitimate and valuable for a company. IMO, it’s not the norm nor is it generally worth the premium that most companies pay for those hours.

  • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    It’s always funny seeing these silicon valley startups have essentially zero retained employees and engineers except the CEO.

    All money machines built on the backs of long gone engineers that only exist because they’ve cornered their share of the oligopoly market.

  • Asafum@feddit.nl
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    2 months ago

    “Employees tend to forget that the entire purpose of life is to run yourself ragged for some dipshit who has obtained entirely way too much wealth and will never stop demanding more. It’s like they just don’t get it. WORK HARDER! I DEMAND TRIBUTE!”

  • iridebikes@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Ah yes, Steve showing his true colors.

    “Forget moral convictions or a greater purpose than self enrichment. Reddit is public now baby, this thing makes money, not societal progress!”

    And in the vacuum, Lemmy rises up.

  • notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Maybe people should go back to “not working very hard” because Reddit has spiraled into a shit hole ever since it’s users became ad revenue generators.

    Fuck Steve Huffman, fuck Reddit, Nazi sympathizing shithole website.

    • Zenith@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      They just outright ban people now. Been a Reddit user with zero problems for well over a decade, like 13 years, I’m now banned completely for upvoting Luigi content and saying I was surprised Kanye hadn’t murder/suicided Kim or Taylor yet which is apparently promoting violence. They’re really going out of their way to purge users.

      • MBech@feddit.dk
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        2 months ago

        Funny. I said I didn’t understand why CIA hadn’t killed Trump yet. That is also promoting violence, I guess… If you completely ignore all the people they’ve killed in the past with a worse reason than what Trump has done specifically to the CIA.

        The least they could’ve done was banning me for when I said Trump deserves to hang upside down for an extended amount of time in piñata hanging height.

    • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 months ago

      Yep. Exactly. Before Elon went full Nazi and during the API riots, he said that he wants reddit to be like X and run like how musk operates it

  • 9point6@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Spez maybe should have worked harder at not destroying both shareholder value and the trust of the people that actually made the site what it was.

    Like who is he working for here, because it doesn’t seem like anyone’s pleased about him

    • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Feature-wise I feel Lemmy is nearly identical to Reddit. The biggest advantage Reddit has is the communities and they’ve been basically hacking away at them for over a year.

      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Hey that’s not fair. Reddit has been working hard at making itself more closed and on giving it a far shittier UI