NOTE: I am NOT defending AI or it’s usage or anything like that. So just tie that horse right back up at the kitchen sink. I don’t like the whole AI thing. This post is not about AI.
I get that it was necessary at first, but now whenever there’s any hint of AI, there’s a great chorus of everyone saying the same thing ‘AI slop bla bla bla’ like a gaggle of sheep jerking their knees.
It’s not fucking helpful. It only sows even more division among the peasants, while the oligarchs take zero notice and continue on as usual. The correct way to engage with AI content you don’t like is just not at all.
Examples:
Recently I watched as a post for a community event was removed, because it had an AI image. The image was not requested or created by the organiser, it was provided to them, and had information in several languages. But the post was removed because AI slop and now there is less human connection happening. Yay. Well fucking done. You literally are helping the AI overlords now.
I’ve seen many actual legit digital artists getting hit with the cries of AI slop and even banned, when they have been making art for years before AI was even a thing. People actually can’t tell the difference half the time when they think they can, and end up hurting real artists.
Now is not the time to be attacking each other over using AI to generate some stupid meme. There are much, MUCH bigger issues at stake right now, and calling everything AI slop does nothing to help.
/rant
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Finally an actually unpopular opinion. Angry upvote. AI slop needs to die and I will not shut up
I dislike it too, but I strongly disagree, ai slop is much worse and you have to be loud because of how strongly it is forced upon us.
Be loud about why it’s bad
It undermines human effort and is generally spam, maybe we have different experiences but I’ve heard that to death already, which is why it’s annoying to me.
Feels like MLK’s quote fits right here
I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice
We do need tension, but not between us peasants, it needs to be between us and legislators/oligarchs.
btw, the way you keep calling everyone a peasent is really not helping your case imho xD
Ok, but you’re saying AI is a problem, but we shouldn’t call it out along with other issues? Nah, we’ll call out whats slop: slop.
Overall you’re saying it’s not actually about AI but it’s literally feeling pro ai, and none of us are conformists, especially when it comes from horrendous shit/actions to individual instigators.
Well you could instead say something like, “You shouldn’t use AI for images, it massively harms the environment and has a huge societal cost that we will all pay.” Engage with the person, not the content. That’s far more effective.
Ok so if you’re adamant on that point, why wouldn’t you be mad/call that out? You’re having to suffer because of people’s stupid choices. /neutral /genuine question
nah, fuck ai and anyone who uses it
If we cannot stop the infighting, the machines have already won.
Truly an unpopular opinion.
Fuck AI and everybody using it
If we cannot stop the infighting, the machines have already won.
“stop the infighting!” as we literally burn the planet to the ground for shitty AI, technofascists steal ALL our data, they use AI and data centers to power the fascist surveillance state, and power the Israeli genocide.
I’m sorry comrade, but fuuuuuuuucckkkkk ai.
(kinda replying to your the machines have won replies)
there are no ‘machines’ that will ‘win’ anything… the only way ‘ai can win’ is by normalising it, by forgetting the costs (environmental and human) of using it, as well as those who benefit from it’s use (the people who stand to win something).
what you’re calling for is exactly that (being complacant about it) and it’s probably why people get upset…?
p.s. i do agree that we should approach each other with more love and understanding and probably inform more than shame. i’m truly believe most people are just lazy or curious, not actively malicious.
Yup, an unpopular opinion.
I’d argue there’s absolutely no moral usage of it because it’s a tool of the oligarchs to devaule workers further and further. AI media slop is a real problem, if you allow any of it then where is the line at which you stop then?
Regardless of moral usage or not, chanting ‘AI slop’ at every opportunity provides minimal benefit and doesn’t encourage the user over to our side.
Some people may not know it’s AI Slop and pointing out and how to identify helps. For those who are wholly in support of we’ll never get them to agree. I don’t try to change people’s opinions who will not ever change them. Which is why I stopped arguing with most conservatives and all reactionaries.
how is it a tool of the oligarchs to devalue workers? It can be used by any worker for a tiny cost and the models themselves are a pretty competitive space with very little signs of any of the big companies having a moat.
AI media slop would be a problem if the content on these platforms wasnt already the worst shit possible.
The fact they see it as a replacement for certain workers for cost cutting it the entire reason. You don’t think they’ll validate that if AI can do X of your job you deserve less money? Nothing about AI is to help YOU, the worker, it’s to help THEM the business.
Ok so tool of the oligarch to devalue workers is meaningless since every piece of tech falls under that description.
Being purposely obtuse is unbecoming of you.
Why is it worse than other tools?
This is deep if you’re 14. The costs to access it are dirt cheap. If you think its useful there is nothing stopping you from using it to access wealth.
Wealth never has trouble accessing skill. If anything it undermines wealth by giving everyone access to skill.
That being said I consider AI to be access to skill in the same way a search engine is access to skill more of a tool than a worker replacement.
Unfortunately for us, the oligarchs definitely see it as a way to pay people less
Thats a different claim. Companies have always wanted to reduce labor costs. The question is whether AI actually gives them the ability to do that at scale. So far, there is no evidence of broad wage suppression or mass job loss caused by AI. Companies will always have access to skill. So I dont think you can say that a tool accessible to millions of ordinary people is exclusively empowering elites and removing access to wealth from people. If I believe AI was that powerful I would be forced to think the opposite, that it was giving ordinary people access to skill and wealth.
Anyone can post Ai slop by accident. It’s how you handle it. And if you do it on purpose, you know what side you’re on. I’m fine with people acknowledging that they used something they didn’t intent to.
In regards to that event. Did they just say “hey I didn’t know, here’s an image that’s just word art?”. There are so many ways to handle things. Hell, just hand draw something in a minute when you find out and post that instead.
AI slop is not your friend.
This particular opinion is popular with me, only because one of the things that got SO tiring on reddit was scrolling past all the FAAAAAKE FFFFEEEEAAAAAAAKKKKKEEEE FAKE AKF EKA FKEF FEEEAAAAKKKEEE comments on any submission that happened before AI, or SCRIPTEDDDDDDDD on any video that might be a sketch or might even be legit. Those people now stroke their genitals while posting AAAAAAIIIIIII SSSSLLLLOOOPPPPPPPPPP.
So either it is these things or it isn’t, but S H U T T H E F U C K U P . Jesus fucking christ.
That said, AI slop sucks.
What’s worse is that it’s also being used to suppress true images in the news.
It only takes a second to discredit a picture, but it takes several hours to prove it, and the damage is never undone.
I don’t really care about a computer making fictious images, but I am concerned how humans abuse the whole situation.
If you can replace a word with the N-word and your sentence sounds like it came out of jim crows’ mouth then you are being anti-AI wrong. If you sound exactly as dumb as an anti-vaxxer promoting your lack of understanding as evidence then you are being anti-AI wrong. I really only defend it here but I don’t even like the only AI that people here seem to use the big chatbots.
And then there is the people that see AI and freak out those are irrational people with a morality that only activates for this particular subject.
Thanks for this honeypot. Lots of great assholes to block in the comments.
“Don’t confuse slop with legitimately useful content just because some part of it was created with AI tools.”
Fuck off with this purity test bullshit. Whatever happened to inclusivity? Acceptance? Removing gatekeeping? Now gatekeeping is 100% acceptable if it’s a gate you personally don’t like?
Now gatekeeping is 100% acceptable if it’s a gate you personally don’t like?
yes. humans are inherently contrary. now pick a side.
No. Stop being an absolutist loon. Be better than the screaming chimps. Use that prefrontal cortex and put down the fist full of feces.
Block and move on.
