• brownsugga@lemmy.world
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    My fringe idea is to bring back the Bull Moose party, it can be a caucus within the Dem party like the DSA but basically full of people who will fight MAGA and project 2025 with all the dirty tricks the mainstream dems refuse to use

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    “Win back the working class”.

    The Ds and Rs have been working against the working class for about 70 years.

    Yes, I know the Ds provide more lip service… but the numbers don’t lie. Pay is down, life expectancy is down, everything is down but corporate profits.

    Unions were almost 50% of the workforce back in the 50s, now they are down to less than 10%, and most of that is government employees.

    Even Poland now has better worker benefits than the USA, maternity leave, vacation, and other benefits Americans can only dream of. We have been surpassed by Eastern Europe.

    It sure would be nice to have a labor party in the USA. You can’t win back the working class by actively fucking them over for generations.

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      Yeah i support some dem politicians but i really wish they just took a different party name. At the end of the day schumer and jefferies are just the other side of the coin of trump.

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    “I dont know what to do, i dont know how to reach out to these good men and women to communicate with and to share our values”

    “have you tried talking to them? Listening to their needs?”

    “What? Why the fuck would I lower my self to the peasantry. They just need to do what they’re told and like it… now how do we make them understand this”

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    Either you solve the problems of the working people, or you blame it all on immigrants and minorities.

    Only one of these approaches is consistent with what the oligarchs want.

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        Remember the “welfare queen”? Reagan literally invented that, there was no such woman, he just made up a woman living like nobility on government “handouts”, and even though it was all shown to be a sham, the right still uses that phrase.

        “I don’t care that it’s fake. It still pisses me off!”

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          Reagan literally invented that, there was no such woman

          There was one woman, specifically, who was identified, arrested, prosecuted, and imprisoned. Reagan’s media team then generalized the singular incident into a massive national conspiracy by an entire ethnic demographic.

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      If there was money in helping society, they would. There’s just way more profit in chaos, hatred, and destruction.

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    Fuck the GOP for sure but it’s hard to still believe in a two-party system without seeing both parties as eerily similar.

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      Both parties are charged with keeping their 330 million people maximally productive. The US isn’t the richest country in the world without reason.

      The country is rich, the people aren’t.

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        To be fair, the US isn’t rich so much because of its own productivity, but through being the world’s largest empire, plundering from the global south.

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        A two party state is a one party state with another step.

        Seriously though, don’t want to be cynical- there is a massive difference between the two parties. One is a meek bureaucrat, the other a convicted serial rapist, and quite literally.

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      I remember that. I never liked him (but voted for him over the pedophile rapist, Donald Trump), but at that point I really started to think he was an actual piece of shit.

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        What did they do? Run against him in primaries and let people vote for the other person?

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          Super delegates come to mind. They mostly sided with Hillary. Without the Superdelegates, Bernie was never far behind Hillary in terms of delegates. And since the media reported the super delegates who had at this point only pledged to vote for Hillary as if they were obligated to vote for her as if they were normal delegates, this probably demoralized Bernie voters.

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            They rigged the primary for Hillary, an action they were later forced to admit to and defend in court.

            They also let Hillary seize campaign funds from down ballot races and screwed over half of their own candidates. It was ironically called the Clinton Victory Fund.

            Fuck ‘centrists’. They’re all fascists too.

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              It’s crazy they couldn’t see the excitement Bernie was creating. The only one who was excited for Hillary was Hillary.

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                They certainly could see the excitement Bernie was creating and it scared them because it was a threat to their self-serving agenda.

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                I hate that the entire political apparatus in the US hinges on a few assholes’ egos, but it’s what we’re stuck with

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                There’s no alliance to be made with the party that’s decided it serves the enemy.

                Wall Street is the enemy. No party that takes corporate donations at all can claim not to be serving the enemy.

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        IMHO it was clear Trump would win 2024 when Biden was nominated in 2020. America demands change and corporate centrists will just enrage them more.

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          At the time, Biden was promising that he wouldn’t run a second time, and let the primaries pick his hopeful successor. Unfortunately he went back on that promise

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            Because without fail, every ShitLib who espoused “vote for Biden and then we can push him left” was back at brunch before the inauguration.

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            Even if he hadn’t run again, his refusal to deal with the real economic problems facing working class whites in flyover states handed them to Trump on a silver platter. “Nothing will fundamentally change” is unacceptable to a farmer losing everything, so they voted to burn it all down.

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          I figured Biden might lose to another Republican, but I underestimated Trump. During the Biden admin, Trump was doing a masterful job of “leading from the opposition.”

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    The inherent problem with the DNC is that rank in the party is designated by seniority, and all the current senior members came into power when Third Way politics became popularized.

    Third way politics is the actual non conspiracy reason you should hate the Clintons. They popularized it in America as a way to get past the gridlock of Congress that started in the early 90s. Basically they would work with “centrist” politicians on the other side of the aisle on any policy that both parties could agree with. This decongested the grid lock and “proved” that Democrats could be trusted to navigate the center path.

    In reality it ceded control over what policy made up the middle ground over to Republicans, who took the opportunity to drag the DNC further and further right. So now we have a “leftist” political party that has been trained for the last 30 years to reflexively make concessions at the whim of the increasingly fascist right.

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      they likely worked with gingirch and mitch mconnel to achieve this end. both of them using never work with the other side until you get what you want legislation.

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    People who see enough “real” lose their ability to consume or be influenced by bullshit. You’ll see this in healthcare among experienced staff. People are often their authentic selves, for better or worse, when ill or in pain. More so, with staff members who spend the most time dealing directly with the people.

    What happens is healthcare management loses their ability to bullshit or talk sideways to staff to placate them.

    I feel like the people as a whole are becoming like that now. (Finally). In response to political spin. The “muzzle velocity” approach to news has accelerated that progression. People are generally done with bullshit and talking sideways from their politicians.

    What will happen if democrats try anything less than authenticity, is they will likely cease to exist as a party. The “vote against” momentum is already dying.

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      I actually think Mamdani has helped accelerate this as well, proving that it’s possible to just do things citizens want by you know, doing them them takes so much air out of bought and paid for career politicians

      It’s obviously not all him, but I do think the visibility and his overall authenticity is changing hearts and minds

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        And he does it fast too. Potholes get fixed within the week when residents alert the city about them. It completely undermines the narrative that government has to be so slow and useless at getting things done. That’s a serious threat to politicians who now can’t sit around doing nothing without the public asking why they can’t do what Mamdani does. Even moreso that it’s a socialist getting things done, something Americans have been so thoroughly trained to treat as a scary boogeyman until now.

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        And he balanced the budget. Republicans do the opposite now when balancing the budget used to be their political war cry. And he did it right away, didn’t take long.

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          Republicans do the opposite now

          Tbh, the Republicans haven’t balanced a (national) budget in 80 years. They’ve all run deficits, while Democrats tend to run budget surpluses (or reduce the deficit if the previous GOP administration was particularly bad)

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          Basically every municipal budget in the country could be balanced by de-funding the police.

          Maybe there’s fuckwoods county Montana, with two park rangers a cop and a comptroller, but the cop could still be replaced with a social worker who gets paid half as much and does more good.

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    Coming from the polls on MDC today I can tell D voters registered and living in the 305 just didn’t show up. This is why we can’t have nice things.

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      young people are too distracted by tiktok, instagram, youtube, and now reddit o care. i think were claims of them saying “how it doesnt affect us right now”

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      No, I’m sure {the DNC, the illuminati, the billionaires, the media, the Chinese} are at fault, it can’t be the voters!

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    I just wish they’d spend it on something useful like studying whether trickle down economics worked or not. I feel like its been a good couple of weeks since the last time ‘findings’.