• dan@upvote.au
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    I wish Microsoft kept Windows as a paid product, instead of making it effectively free (with things like free upgrades from older versions) and sticking ads all over the place.

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      Um Windows 11 Home costs 145€ from ms directly… Free updates yeah, but I’m guessing that’s so people aren’t stuck without updates eventually.

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        It’s because for Microsoft a user using Windows for free is better than a user using some other OS.

        At least when the user uses Windows for free they still tell everyone at work and home that you have to run Windows because there’s just nothing else out there.

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          I doubt that is a reason most people switch. But I suppose it is a valid concern for Microsoft

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        Correct, but that’s cost is only if you buy windows 11 for a machine that has never had windows on it,

        11 is free for any windows user that has 10. It also comes pre installed on most PCs you buy and very rarely is that cost of the license noted on the device your buying (unless you use the customize settings on an online store)

        I’m also pretty sure there are still ways to upgrade to 10 from 7 and 8. Windows did this to make it harder for people to switch to a different OS because most people remember when they had to “pay” to upgrade to the latest version.

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          It also comes pre installed on most PCs you buy

          That’s because you’re paying the manufacturer for the licence and yes they likely get a discount but it’s still a lot of money you could save.

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            The average consumer either doesn’t go to the manufacturer site or doesn’t care enough to look into alternatives. They want something that gets their school/work done.

            As some in the IT field who regularly deals with people that have a 4+ year degree and then tell me they are “tech illiterate” is astounding.

            In the past they were hand held so much that the previous techs had a password book of everyone’s password for multiple applications.

            Luckily with a lot of pushback from our current members about how insecure and dangerous that is that has changed, but we still have users even after 3 years since the change message us through a depreciated system asking for their password.

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              The average consumer either doesn’t go to the manufacturer site

              Where does the average consumer get their computer then? Also I do know a few people using lubuntu instead of windows on their laptops.

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          I believe they ended the free update from 7/8 to 10 when windows 11 was introduced. And I doubt ms is still selling windows 10 licenses.

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            Ah I just checked there used to be a loophole by going through a disability program or using an alternative authentication method provided by Microsoft that would activate the 10 license after the update. Looks like it was patched in September 2023 though.