The argument the mod writes is 👌
Update : there’s a new one that appears but, I’ve checked, that’s the same mod as the others
Update 2 : got contacted by the mod, overall sweet guy/gal we agree to disagree and keep the ban up, who said that Lemmy cannot be civil
Isn’t “post-scarcity society” a big part of star trek too? Weird to claim you are a star trek fan while defending “scarcity generator 3000.”
we agree to disagree and keep the ban up, who said that Lemmy cannot be civil
had a similar interaction with another mod. they weren’t applying the rules unilaterally and temp banned me. I pointed out the hypocrisy/favoritism. they decided to lift the ban. I said, no, ban them too. we both broke the rules. they did it begrudgingly, so I blocked the community.
I refuse to interact with a community where mods begrudgingly apply the rules they’re entrusted with upholding. If I break the rules, so be it. if we break the rules we all are punished, no exceptions.
You claim to hate AI in real life but like AI in SciFi. Curious.
What? You like Star Trek, but don’t want to live in the Star Trek universe?!?!
Not wanting to live in the Star Trek universe is honestly crazy it’s basically Paradise compared to the real world, even billionaires would likely be better off in that universe from a fulfilment and happiness perspective
Billionaires will just become badmirals. The get off on being shit to other people.
Oh no, AI slop will be removed from your feed? However will you survive‽
All you have to do is downvote a post and you’ll be banned. I blocked the account months ago.
Lol, they think the computers in star trek were just LLMs
They think that Fully Automated Capitalism is the same as Fully Automated Space Communism.
Luxury Gay Space Communism, get it right!
Imagine if the computer on star trek operated the way it does in every episode where the computer is malfunctioning. That’s how real-world “AI” works. You ask to go to the bridge and it keeps sending your ass to engineering and ten forward.
Also: They didn’t even mention Data who is more AI than even the ship’s computer!
Ironic that Data maintains he’s not human but would never gaslight a teenager into suicide
After Tesseract and now this, it raises a question. Do people that call themselves conservatives have to always be contrarians?
Literally any topic. There were issues that one would think everyone would agree on and they still surprise you.
They seem contrarian because half their ideas are outdated by centuries and against the modern commom sense.
Sounds a bit circle-jerky, but anarchists and socialists are just arguing “We could fix racism and homelessnes easier my way.” meanwhile conservatives in the back are going “Prove racism exists! Also high homelessnes rates are actually a good thing because…”
Conservative brains typically have larger amygdalas, which are responsible for anger and fear responses. So yes, their brains reward them when they get angry, so they seek more occasions to get angry.
the true AI are usually the holograms, or a robotic race but it seems limited. but they are pretty much not as extensively integrated like the Andromeda series, the ship has an AI that is pretty integrated into all the ships systems(can appear as a hologram or as an android, or upload into multiple robots at once) and perform most of the task the crew requires.
Data and Lore? You forget them??? Fully sentient sapient beings that managed to secure in the court of law that they should be trialled as a Human because they have all the same faculties, just artificially created
Also Star Trek: Picard added a lot of people who were built by the same guy that built Data
Everytime they try AI systems in trek it starts blowing up starships.
Can I be banned here if I would say something nice about ai (as tool not companies)?
Probably not, just shouted at for being a fucking idiot, by everyone here
you’d be doing so ironically, so probably not.
it’s not like we’re one of the “women only” communities that ban you as soon as you out yourself.
You don’t need to redact your rap sheet, it’s public.
Ha right. Forgot about that. Didn’t want to bring too much heat to the instance
LCARS was a data access and retrieval system capable of doing calculations and simulations. It was not, I REPEAT, was not “artificial intelligence”. It did not try to act or sound sentient, it simply responded to commands and ran programs.
TOS had the m5, which went rogue and started attacking and blowing up other starships, and lower decks had the Texas class, which went rogue and started attacking other starships
There is at least one instance where it was written as sapient in TNG. That was mostly for a joke, though. Specifically, there was a running gag in early TNG with Data getting a bit too into defining things and someone (usually Picard) would interrupt him with something along the lines of, “Thank you, Data, we get it.” In one scene, Data is alone and only talking to the computer, which gives the line there.
Though it could create intelligence. “Computer, make an opponent that can be better than data”. Ok, guess it’s time to make a sentient hologram then.
But that could only be done if the method do so had been stored as a program in the databanks. In Voyager, when they try to replicate The Doctor; Harry writes a program and then tells the computer to run that program. When the hologram fails, he has to reprogram it and run again.
Yeah, probably because all of the computers had some guardrails built in due to the “Moriarty Incident”.
It’s not like Star Trek is the most consistent over time.
In Voyager, they did tend to treat the Doctor with more care and show that it was a lot of hard work. By extension the other sentient holograms.
In TNG, they absolutely just casually upgraded a run of the mill holodeck NPC to a sentient being with a single supremely vague directive.
These people understand Star Trek is fictional, often takes place on quasi-military vessels, and depicts a society that has some significant differences from our own, right?
A friend has compared generative AI to the electric monks from Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective agency.
I’ve found that the AI chatbots feel a lot like the Genunine People Peronalities from Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.
You’ll have to spark my memories because I don’t remember those
From Dirk Gently
The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. Dishwashers washed tedious dishes for you, thus saving you the bother of washing them yourself, video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electric Monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, that of believing all the things the world expected you to believe.
In the book, an alien ship crashed on earth, the crew asked an electric monk if their ship was repaired. The monk responded that it believed it was, the aliens tried to take off, and then the ship exploded because it wasn’t actually repaired.
In Hitchhiker’s Guide, Genuine People Personalities were AIs that tended to be obnoxiously cheerful, neurotic, or hyperactive. Doors with a GPP would sigh with pleasure when they opened and loudly ask if they did a good job if someone told them to open quietly, for example.
God ! Douglas Adams was fucking funny. What a shame he didn’t got to see our time
He had a unique way with words. I sometimes wonder how he’d feel about having essentially predicted how AI turned out.
Oh god yes. Now you understand the suicides
That is master-class trolling, that is!
But let’s for a moment ignore that it is fictional. Star Trek’s economical system is communism, I wonder if they also embrace it?
totally not a cult
At least Majel Barret
getdon’t make mistakesandor hack romulian as the computer
It happens when you post here, you don’t even have to interact with their community. Instead they come here, by their own volition, to be angry about us not liking AI and they then decide to ban every name they come across. This community existing is insult enough for them. Thankfully they self-isolate for the most part.
are you saying people here may have been banned by communities without even knowing? fascinating :o I wouldn’t even know how to check that
I was banned from a whole bunch of AI slop communities for ‘persistent trolling’ … but I’d never posted to any of them, so … yes. They ban you preemptively.
I got curious and just looked up my profile in the ban log and it seems I am banned as well in a handful of random (same mod in all of them I assume) dbozer communities without having posted in any of them, with the reason given being “Troll account” (no mention of AI).
So yup, just a power mad mod being cultish about their AI-slop, who probably just banned anybody who posts in here.
I mean… That kind of sounds like they’re doing a public service, TBH 😅
I’d agree but it’s pretty fucking gross to ban people that have never even visited your community.
I legitimately think anyone here would deserve a ban if they went over there and said shit. We clearly don’t belong but we’re here minding our own business.
Yeah, the preemptive nature of the ban shows some extreme fragility. It would be like the mods of this channel going to the slop celebration channels and banning anybody who posted there.
It reminds me of that old Reddit meme when people were banned from /r/Pyongyang
Yes, but its not a problem. Usually the mod just bans you from their personal AI dumping ground.
Oh nooooooo I’m banned from the septic tank I didn’t want to see in the first place oh noooook
I found out that I was banned from a handful of communities. I was banned for 3 months or something, but didn’t even see that I was banned until after about 6 months had passed. I guess it didn’t impact me at all. The mods be trippin’.
No different from Reddit in that regard
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If you’re using voyager go into « your profile » and the 3 dots in the right up corner
I don’t use voyager beyond it being my favorite star trek series! 😁
There’s at least two communities in there that I have interact with. I don’t think this mod is that petty. However there’s some « stable_Something » that ban me for being here. Meh 🤷♀️
Joke’s on them, I hate Star Trek too.
I have been banned from exactly one, and it was literally for dissenting opinions about AI.
Even if I say that I love AI and unquestioningly accept whatever today’s horseshit is?
good
Obviously I’m not enough of an AI hater cause I ain’t been banned from shit.
