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    I work in a restaurant and ever since COVID the health inspector has been SUPER cautious about our soda machine. We run a clean ship but it’s always the first thing they look at, and they go over it with a fine tooth comb.

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        This is 100% about pinching pennies. Gotta find new ways to post those “record breaking profits” every year.

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          Pinching pennies tends to be a really bad way to improve profits, though. Especially if you’re lowering customer satisfaction or attraction in the process.

          Not that companies and managers won’t still try doing just that.

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            Customer satisfction and attraction aren’t numbers on a spreadsheet, so I guess the effects of shitty policies like this don’t exist

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          McDonalds isn’t really a fast food company. McDonalds makes most of it’s money via real estate investment. The suckers who open franchise locations are the only ones who care about pinching pennies on food and drink.

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          Well if they don’t make record breaking profits they won’t be useful to investors on the stock market and thats the real game

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      Even before covid the soda fountain was the thing they could get. I remember that being a big target back when I worked fast food 20 years ago.

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      That’s crazy, you literally push the cup against the trigger. Flesh doesn’t even need to touch it!

      The lid/straw area, however…

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    the main reason i even go to chains like mcdonalds in the first place is the soda fountain. it’s (usually) much better than retail product in bottles or cans.

    if i have to wait 10 minutes to maybe (they will have zero incentive to wait on you) get a refill, after already waiting 10-30 minutes for my food in the first place (wait times have gotten really bad the last few years… for “reasons”). i won’t even go there anymore at all unless i’m traveling (which i don’t really do much of either). the ridiculous and constant price increases already got me down from a once-a-week treat to maybe once every month or two.

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      I find the wait times have gone up as they prioritise both drive thru and delivery options ahead of people actually at the counter.

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      it’s actually because they dont want you to go there and buy stuff if you buy stuff then they have to spend money to restock stuff and that hurts profits!

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    My guess is this is a small move in a long term strategy to fully automate their restaurants. Everything needing a human will be re-worked to not need human labor or will be eliminated.

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      First this, then refills are no longer free (which is how it works in most of the world already). I imagine automation will also come in there as well.

      Margin on drinks is huge as they cost next to nothing.

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      How does this remove human labor? In a traditional fast food restaurant human labor will always be needed to wipe the tables for example also. If you mean not a traditional restaurant but instead becoming basically a store sized vending machine, that’s possible, but that would be such a different product that they wouldn’t already be making those changes in their existing stores.

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    This change happened awhile ago at places where I live, in Canada. Barely noticed it.

    Now they bring my drink to my table, instead of me having to awkwardly wait around for the cup so I can fill it up while they bring the food out.

    I don’t mind it at all, you still get a free refill btw, just gotta ask for it.

    Now I know some random kid hasnt gotten their sticky popsicle fingers all over my cup lid or tried to drink straight out of the machine end. I am very much in favor of that.

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    Food safety and theft prevention…

    Great so now you get to have your drink prepped from a machine that’s never been cleaned by the sweaty, overworked teen behind the counter who’s handled everyone’s dirty money and cards all day instead of going over to the machine that’s never been cleaned and touching the machine that all those same dirty people have touched.

    All because McDonald’s is worried about saving literally pennies to “food theft” which is just a fancy way of them saying they don’t want you getting free refills anymore.

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      It’s just an excuse to squeeze more profit…

      They’ve operated wonderfully and made billions in the decades before this decision. It’ll get to the point where corporations won’t even try to sugar coat these moves.

      “We’re removing food wrappers and packaging because we make more money that way” we’ll be seeing this in the headlines in the next 5 years.

      It started with defaulting to not putting ketchup packets in your bag without telling you, and even now if you ask at the drive thru 50/50 you get it anyways.

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        Imagine how much waste was generated giving people ketchup packets they might not want and end up throwing away. This sounds like an example of doing the right thing for the wrong reason.

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      Whos paying at the counter and by money in Maccy Ds in 2023? You order on the big touch screen thing and tap your phone/card to pay.

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      This. I can’t remember walking into a Macca’s in my country with self-serve drinks. And contrary to what you would expect from someone describing the place as “Macca’s,” I live in The Netherlands.

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    They did that in a McD near where I live. Before, when I wanted a refill I would:

    • Get a refill

    Clearly we can make this process better. Now at the newly remodeled McD it’s as simple as:

    • Wait at the counter to get an overworked employees attention
    • Tell them you want a refill
    • Throw your entire cup away in the trash
    • Wait for your replacement drink

    “It’s an evolution toward convenience,” Mikel Petro

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    They’ve been penny-pinching and jacking up prices aggressively. For something called “fast food” it is not really fast anymore. The rare time I’ve been to mcdonalds since the pandemic, it looks like they keep the number of employees to two people at a time in each location and the drive-thru line takes forever to move. Not going to miss it since it was rare for me to go to mcdonalds even before the pandemic, but the general penny-pinching pisses me off and mcdonalds seems like one of the worst offenders. I think they’ve been wanting to rebrand as “casual dining” or whatever, but based on their approach it’s really just a market segment that doesn’t make sense to me. Shitty food, small portions, high prices, and slow service. I have no idea why people still go there.

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      McDonalds has crashed in quality since the pandemic. During the pandemic everyone was really competing for market share and improving their menus… Except McDonalds, and now that we’re out of the pandemic, everyone is pinching including McDonalds. I’d really rather go anywhere else except maybe BK.

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      You can still ask for it but there’s no guarantee that the proportions will be right.

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    I said goodbye to McDonalds (and Wendy’s, Burger King, Taco Bell, Arbys etc.) 15 years ago.
    Poor health isn’t a good trade for convenience.

    It was right after I had the baconator for the first time.
    It was kind of a wake up call, I just said “Holy shit what am I doing to myself”.

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      Fast food is high in salt and sugar, but assuming you overall are fairly healthy eating it occasionally isn’t terrible for you.

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    The mcdonalds near me removed self serve soda during the pandemic and never brought them back. I can still request free refills but a staff member does it from behind the counter.

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    I have never encountered any place (except IKEA) that allows you to refill using those unless you pay a bit extra.

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      That’s the European thing, most fastfood restaurants in America allow it. The two places in Czech Republic that allow it(KFC and Burger King) have people save their cups and refill them days later so I imagine that kind of theft is why more places don’t have it. Also, European restaurants in general monetize drinks a lot more. In the US it is common for sit-down restaurants to refill your drinks for free, and water is always free (to the point where California passed a law requiring a restaurant asks if you want water before bringing it, to conserve water)