I’m happy you’re disabled enough and/or rich enough to get fancy-ass fucking disabled bikes for yourself. Privileged shitlords. The rest of us are fucked.
Because public services and transportation hasn’t and can’t provide services to disabled people? You really think that? Fuck man, these systems can work and provide for you easily. Japan and the Netherlands have a lot of handicap support and you can get around without needing to be privileged. I hope you get the help you need.
I can’t use public transportation. They make a nice show of how they’re “accessible” but they’re really fucking not. Fuck public transportation. Cars are so much easier and go RIGHT TO AND FROM WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.
You’re just being ableist and parroting the same anti-car bullshit.
I’m not. But you’re unwilling to have a productive conversation. With unproductive language. So it’s pointless to really continue this.
Both countries still have cars. You can still get around with a car. The idea is to reduce car usage so that people that have a need for a car can and with less traffic. You’ll get to point a and b quicker without people that don’t need a car clogging the street. But hey I’m apparently being ableist. When you’re willing to be productive in conversation we can continue with this. But if you’re gonna be thick about it. I’m not interested in continuing this.
No, you want a world without cars. That is your stated goal. You backtracking is you trying to take a more neutral position than your original one, which is “cars bad, everyone walk/use public transportation”. That’s ableist, hateful, and impractical for a ton of people, including people who don’t have mobility issues for so many damn reasons, including transporting goods, weather, going places as a family, having a shelter for not only the weather but for anything else, and going directly to and from one’s destination. Cars are the primary way of transport and nothing you and your anti-car buddies say are going to change it. You’re like vegans and religious people arguing against common sense and logic and reason; you are contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
Wake up and accept modern life and our necessities.
Fuck “fuck cars”. There’s your “unproductive language”, which is, you know, just language. Being vulgar isn’t unproductive, it has its reasons to exist. Which, in this case, to in no certain terms damn your entire worldview.
Don’t put words in my mouth that I did not say. I never stated a goal without cars. My two examples still have cars and they have public transportation. You’re being entirely disingenuous and contrarian, truly ironic that you’re calling me out as the contrarian. I never said fuck cars. Now this community is called that but it’s just an umbrella for better urban design. So I’ll concede that it’s not helpful language in that specific regard. But if you can provide multiple forms of transportation for everyone that is not a bad thing. To think that’s a bad thing is wild. Some people can’t even afford cars and depends on there cities to provide public transportation. What do you say about those people, do they deserve to improve there material conditions? Cars don’t have to be a primary way for commuting and there’s plenty of people in my two example that don’t use a car to get to and from work. But there’s also people in those countries that do.
I’ve recently visited my friend in Japan and his family they live about 2 blocks from a station. We traveled all around that city via the subway system. No car, they don’t even have a car, they can’t really even afford one. Cars aren’t always the primary modern necessity of getting around. Now in places like the North America, it very much is. But we can improve conditions for people that can’t afford cars by improving those system. It does not mean remove all cars. If you want to drive a car to and from places you still can. You’ll deal with less traffic. You’ll get to places faster, your quality of live will improve. You still get your car.
I’m happy you’re disabled enough and/or rich enough to get fancy-ass fucking disabled bikes for yourself. Privileged shitlords. The rest of us are fucked.
What the fuck? I’m in the poorest
5%4% bracket of my countryBecause public services and transportation hasn’t and can’t provide services to disabled people? You really think that? Fuck man, these systems can work and provide for you easily. Japan and the Netherlands have a lot of handicap support and you can get around without needing to be privileged. I hope you get the help you need.
I can’t use public transportation. They make a nice show of how they’re “accessible” but they’re really fucking not. Fuck public transportation. Cars are so much easier and go RIGHT TO AND FROM WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.
You’re just being ableist and parroting the same anti-car bullshit.
I’m not. But you’re unwilling to have a productive conversation. With unproductive language. So it’s pointless to really continue this.
Both countries still have cars. You can still get around with a car. The idea is to reduce car usage so that people that have a need for a car can and with less traffic. You’ll get to point a and b quicker without people that don’t need a car clogging the street. But hey I’m apparently being ableist. When you’re willing to be productive in conversation we can continue with this. But if you’re gonna be thick about it. I’m not interested in continuing this.
No, you want a world without cars. That is your stated goal. You backtracking is you trying to take a more neutral position than your original one, which is “cars bad, everyone walk/use public transportation”. That’s ableist, hateful, and impractical for a ton of people, including people who don’t have mobility issues for so many damn reasons, including transporting goods, weather, going places as a family, having a shelter for not only the weather but for anything else, and going directly to and from one’s destination. Cars are the primary way of transport and nothing you and your anti-car buddies say are going to change it. You’re like vegans and religious people arguing against common sense and logic and reason; you are contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
Wake up and accept modern life and our necessities.
Fuck “fuck cars”. There’s your “unproductive language”, which is, you know, just language. Being vulgar isn’t unproductive, it has its reasons to exist. Which, in this case, to in no certain terms damn your entire worldview.
Don’t put words in my mouth that I did not say. I never stated a goal without cars. My two examples still have cars and they have public transportation. You’re being entirely disingenuous and contrarian, truly ironic that you’re calling me out as the contrarian. I never said fuck cars. Now this community is called that but it’s just an umbrella for better urban design. So I’ll concede that it’s not helpful language in that specific regard. But if you can provide multiple forms of transportation for everyone that is not a bad thing. To think that’s a bad thing is wild. Some people can’t even afford cars and depends on there cities to provide public transportation. What do you say about those people, do they deserve to improve there material conditions? Cars don’t have to be a primary way for commuting and there’s plenty of people in my two example that don’t use a car to get to and from work. But there’s also people in those countries that do.
I’ve recently visited my friend in Japan and his family they live about 2 blocks from a station. We traveled all around that city via the subway system. No car, they don’t even have a car, they can’t really even afford one. Cars aren’t always the primary modern necessity of getting around. Now in places like the North America, it very much is. But we can improve conditions for people that can’t afford cars by improving those system. It does not mean remove all cars. If you want to drive a car to and from places you still can. You’ll deal with less traffic. You’ll get to places faster, your quality of live will improve. You still get your car.