• Hell_nah_brother@thelemmy.club
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    3 days ago

    Finally we are understanding that these fuckers only understand violence and with violence you should talk. These people just need to be bullied non stop 24/7. One day they will understand nobody wants them here and they can got kill themself in peace.

      • Kuori [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.net
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        1 day ago

        not so much now as always but he’s kind of a reactionary shithead about a lot of stuff (trans people and mental health being two of the more recent examples i can recall) plus if i’m not mistaking my slop producers he’s got ultra tendencies

        much less importantly on whatever passes for an interpersonal level with these people i also just think he’s an annoying asshole

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      4 days ago

      Everyone wants to call themselves anti-Zionist but vote for a guy who invests hundrends millions of NYC dollars into Israeli weapons companies during the genocide (Brad Lander)

      It’s time to start bullying those folks a bit harder.

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    4 days ago

    What ever method that works as long as it actually works, though that isn’t necessarily a given, confirmation should be sought on actual effectiveness of a method, and so far to me it seems, bullying may backfire and dig in a position as one who feels they are under attack will get defensive is response. More importantly the focus should be on reaching those who are most likely to be reached, like picking the low hanging fruit before you start trying to climb the tree. As the purpose is to build to a successful Revolution and thus change the world for the better, it isn’t as important that every person is reached and on board, only enough to get the ball rolling, and that means many people need to be reached, and the most reactionary are both fewer and harder to reach compared to the overall masses who are increasingly sick of being oppressed.

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      4 days ago

      Look how much supposed anti-Zionists grovel for Israel the moment a coordinated campaign screeches antisemtism at them. Basically do that but in reverse.

      Anyone who voices any support for the existence of the genocidal ethnostate which is actively massacring Palestinians needs to called out as the racist Nazi they are, ostricized from spaces be bullied into submission and apology.

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        3 days ago

        I think you misread my intentions, I would never intentionally defend Zionists (Fascists), my focus was on whether or not bullying was an effective tactic to change a persons thinking, but I also don’t believe someone that has gone full Fascist can be reached anyways. The other point having to do with it being more important to work together with Anti Fascists to put an end to the conditions that support Fascism even being a thing, and hence “reaching those that can be reached” (to organize with for fighting Fascism). And finally I want to mention that it isn’t enough to point out Fascists being Fascists, “naming and shaming” doesn’t make the problem go away, for that Capitalism needs to be over thrown (and it can be done again)

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            2 days ago

            I struggle to pay attention to long videos (it’s an hour long) unless I’m already interested in it already, so I’ll take your word for it (pretty sure I have ADHD or something), on the other hand I’d love an article or a PDF file I can just read, the interaction of having to actively pay attention to read helps focus my attention, and so I can work through hundreds of pages of a PDF after maybe a good week, but an hour long video is a bit much.

            As far as (so called) “isreal” goes, there existence is highly dependent on US support, more concrete action to disrupt anything going to them from the US, if successfully done, may be more effective at stopping their crimes against humanity. A successful Revolution would end the support completely, but perhaps there are …illegal to say… sort of things that an organized effort could pull off in the mean time (though such things can’t be safely discussed in a public forum.) (hypothetically) (in minecraft)