• andros_rex@lemmy.world
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      It’s more just misogyny for us. They don’t see as actual threats, more like confused tomboys. The angle I think they’re working on for us is mental health and concerns about our reproductive capabilities. We are of course “mutilating” our bodies. I could see them banning testosterone treatment because it can harm embryos.

      The trans woman they want to kill, the trans men they want to quietly stick in asylums (and maybe kill. maybe just rape)

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      Because it’s just bullshit

      It would have to be explained to them that if they’re afraid of penises in women’s restrooms then they should be equally afraid for the vaginas in male restrooms

      Now the misogyny becomes misandry, which just falls apart because it is neither. It is just hate in the form if projecting their own insecurities for their own political gain.

      There is no reason for people to suffer because of someone else’s insecurities.

      Especially when those people are suffering just to serve as a political distraction.

      A political distraction that exploits both the trans community and voters by fomenting anti-trans sentiment

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      I think this is a form of misogyny. FtM aren’t taken seriously because they’re seen as confused women

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        I think its specifically the “women are precious and fragile and need to be protected” form of misogyny, since it explains both hatred towards MtF and the ignoring of FtM

        ::: spolier cw transphobia As you said, FtM folks are disregarded as confused and mistaken and needing help, needing saving from “gender ideology” and MtF folks are predators, attacking women in bathrooms, and the women must be protected from them. :::

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          ::: spolier cw transphobia

          You need the content to be on separate lines from the start tag and the end tag, like so:

          ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
          hidden content
          :::
          

          You’re spot on otherwise

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      It’s because it goes against the conservative conspiracy theory of trans women simply being men in dresses infiltrating womens’ public toilets and prisons as a means to harass them.

      “And what’s your explanation for the existence of FtM trans, then? What’s their sinister ulterior motive?” is a question they don’t have the answer to, so they straight up pretend FtM doesn’t exist. They’re conveniently ignored.

      It’s fundamentally harder to spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt over “women dressed as men” than it is to do it for the inverse.

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        When I went to my Wednesday protest, one troll tried to push ”two genders” and cited a story of a woman getting raped, claiming the assailant was transgender with no hormone changes.

        I asked him to explain how his proposed changes to the law might prevent that incident; given that gender expression doesn’t create direct security on bathroom doors. He floundered for a bit, and soon left.

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        “And what’s your explanation for the existence of FtM trans, then? What’s their sinister ulterior motive?” is a question they don’t have the answer to, so they straight up pretend FtM doesn’t exist.

        I mean, in their eyes that would be a woman rising to the superior caste of men for no good reason. We can’t have that either!

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        If they don’t recognize FtM as men then they’re seeing them as women and they don’t respect women. They also understand that MtF can look good and believe that, despite seeing them fully as women “at the time of erection”, that they were “tricked into being gay” even if all they saw was a picture on the internet or a trans women on the street. And then they somehow still treat them as women and go out and attack them in ways they’d never do to a man, so clearly they’ve accepted it deep-down. It’s just a big fucking mess that they won’t put any effort into cleaning up.

        They need therapy and emotional regulation and instead they have indoctrination, childhood trauma, and two rusty braincells struggling to make any connection with eachother.

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      My personal theory on this (with absolutely no negativity directed at anyone at all, and a willingness to be shown I’m wrong) is that FtM pass unnoticed more easily in many scenarios.

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        Makes sense. A women wearing pants is pretty par for the course and anyone else they’d just call a butch lesbian and, more or less, move on.