I’ve worked 2nd (afternoon), swing (evening), and 3rd (overnight) shifts for the majority of my life. I recently moved into a training position where I’m Monday through Friday, 8am to ~5:30pm (I get OT while I’m cleaning up and writing reports).
As much as the 2nd/swing/3rd shifts screw with your life in other ways, the difficulty in scheduling any kind of life services outside of working hours is maddening. Doctor’s appointment? Nope. DMV? Maybe Saturday, if you’re lucky. Chaperone your kids field trip? Hahahhah no.
I don’t want to burn sick time for a doctor’s appointment (I need to save those for when my kid is actually sick), and I sure as hell don’t want to use up a “vacation” day for it. How tf are you supposed to get anything done?
I work 6 to 2. If I need to take a couple hours for a medical, family issue or car appointment, then I let my boss know and he says it’s okay. I’m usually able to schedule things so that I put appointments and so on when I don’t have big meetings. So long as the work gets done it’s cool.
If I’m feeling rotten, I phone in and say I’m either too sick to work or that I’ll WFH that day.
Of course, if I have a big vacation planned then I will put in for leave. I get 25 days off a year.
Scrolling down to this actually made me burst out with a laugh. Well done.
The concept of burning vacation / sick time for a doctor’s appointment is weird to me (canada). I just say “hey boss, doc appointment this day” and he says “okay”.
I feel like it depends on the company here, but I don’t think I’d stay long if they made me use my time off for that.
Same thing here in Europe. You can then get a special permit from the doctor to show your employer that you were actually at a medical appointment and not smoking weed
This feels personal… I’ll have you know I can smoke weed AND go to the doctor.
My job is very lax, so I can just bring in a ThinkPad, and do some coding.
PTO or asking for hour flexibility. Taking off an hour or two early/coming in late because of a dr appointment for example.
DMV (or, our equivalent here) isn’t open on Saturday’s where I live. You have to go during the day 9-5 M-F, which yes, is when most people are working. Same with doctors appointments.
The companies I’ve worked at are generally very understanding, and allow you to make up time later (which is easy to do especially since it’s remote work) if you have to take an afternoon off, that kind of thing.
im an actor and comedian outside the corporate world. I just gig in the evening. I go on dates with my wife. I go to friends birthday parties. I work out. I garden. I play with my cat.
The bad news is - if you wanna do stuff, you gotta go do stuff
It doesn’t work for anyone. People use up their vacation days.
I love reading all the comments from people sharing a similar experience. This is what we deserve
Somehow you just do. Parents have been doing it for quite a long time. Try farming - 7 days a week from 5am til Whenever, and somehow you still get life done. Part of it is adjusting your expectations when they turn out not to work…
I have to beg to be allowed to come in late, just to treat serious health issues. I guess the people with an actual life, are the ones that are born wealthy, or studied to do an easy-going job.
I don’t think you are meant to escape with enough hard work, it is punishment for not being a good student in childhood: You get worked like a slave, your entire life, dreams, passions, dignity, all that you are, is pushed aside, as your health is slowly chipped down, until you drop dead in your 40’s-50’s, no retirement for you.
Then you get some bs eulogy about how you were a good, hardworking man. One of the few times ever that people will even pretend to appreciate you.
Thats the neat part, we dont.
That’s the neat part, you don’t.
8-5?
You work 9 hrs?
Unpaid 1hr lunchbreak. Pretty common today to work 8-5 in a 4:4
Does “in a 4:4” mean 4 days on, 4 days off? That’s only about 16 workdays a month.
Yea, cool.
You have to physically get to work don’t you?
No
Lots of people have 8 hrs paid work time + an actual lunch hour. In my experience 8.5 total is more common.
Lol
Not everyone gets to only work 8, lol
Should they
I mean it should be their choice to work more or not. So yes and no.
It’s not their choice if they’re then coming here to complain they don’t have time for their own life.
Obviously the fuck not lol. Are you trying to build of a strawman about my views to make yourself feel better?
Burn PTO. Already get up at 6 to get the kids off to school, straight to work, straight to dinner, pick one chore until i pass out, get up at 6
If you have PTO. Contractors do not. Finding full time employment these days is hard. Finding full-time contracts is a lot easier.
our contractors take UTO :/
Companies love contractors. No benefits to pay and doesn’t count as a full time hire.
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