I’m a newer fan who only started watching the club over the past 2 seasons. I’ve been trying to learn the history of the club, and I’m confused why there was hate for Wenger at the end of his career. I learned that he lead the invincible’s, and that amazing squad from the early 2000s, he gave us the only champions league final appearance in club history, and even after that he seem to do an amazing job. Heck he even got a new Stadium that is really nice. He seemed to be loved. By all accounts he should be a Saint to the gooners but then I look forward a few years, and they were all these Wenger out protests. What led to such a fall from grace.

  • Barkasia@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    This is said as someone who was Wenger In until the very end.

    The two big innovations Wenger helped champion in English football were improved fitness and nutritional standards, and a ‘continental’ style of football that emphasized individual expression and creativity. This is responsible for Arsenal being synonymous with the beautiful free flowing football we are now associated with, as opposed to the boring orcish pragmatism we employed in the past.

    It also meant that once other clubs caught up off the pitch fitness-wise, and more non-British managers came in bringing better ‘systems’, Wenger’s edge was no longer the difference maker, and we were finding ourselves regularly outmuscled by the weaker teams and outplayed by the stronger ones.

    Wenger also deeply pushed for a ‘family’ dynamic within the club, getting personally involved with the academy and assigning far too much meaning on the young players coming up through the ranks. It meant that we constantly had exciting young players breaking into the team seemingly every year, but it also meant there was too much emotion placed in player dynamics. Players like Cole, Nasri, RvP pissed him off, but Cesc leaving seemed to break him. It also meant he was frequently taken advantage of by the grifters and perennially crocked towards the end of his career, and we found the squad bloated out with players he was too nice to sell and the injury room stacked full of futile talent that he was too invested in to move on.

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      11 months ago

      I’ve lately wondered how much poor attitudes among certain players contributed to Arsenal’s weaker years.

      Can’t really prove this myself, but just considering how Arteta was so keen on getting rid of Auba and Ozil, I feel like it had something to do with it.