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What the actual fuck is this
I love electric cars, prefer them over gasoline, but a Ferrari should look like a Ferrari
The chassis/vision design concept artist should be moved to a different division…
I don’t have a dog in this race, but I would point out that styles do change.
A Ferrari from 1947:
1960:
1980:
This design is getting slandered, damn. Personally I think it looks absolutely sick, but for a brand like Ferrari I’m not sure it’s a good move. It has that electric car look, which makes it seem less exclusive. I’d totally want one if I needed a car and it was actually affordable, but given the price it probably should’ve looked more exclusive.
I love that they’re trying new stuff but it’s weird thinking about the Daytona SP3 and that being from the same company. It reminds me of those slippers they make Japanese kids wear in school.
Yawn, super cars are so 2010
No, its not.
People are shitting on it as if they were planning to buy one, but now they have to find another EV for $640k lol. I like it.
It looks like every other Ferrari I’m not really sure what’s not to like about it. Obviously it should be yellow though, what’s with this blue colour scheme?
Like every other Ferrari? The only bit that looks like a Ferrari is the badge!
It looks like the current Toyota Prius.
The Prius actually looks better, these headlights are awful, holy shit. I love Ferrari, every model for the last 40 years, but my goodness.
looks kinda like a tesla.
I’m so glad that products in this price range are such bad products. I’d be so fucking bummed if a Tesla cost 500K.
Ferrari unveils first fully electric car
Not true. Other brands have had fully electric cars way before Ferrari.
/jk I know what it means, I just read it like this the first time and made me giggle.
Looks boring and generic, you are Ferrari ffs… Give me fins, lasers, cool interiors, fucking something to make it stand out. Who wants this?
Jaguar did this too, making boring EVs with none of the signature styling that the brand is famous for, and then proceeded to tank.
They know what we want, but they deny us at every turn.
Not that this matters in the age where cybertrucks are allowed to exist, but that thing will slice a pedestrian clean in half
Optimization have sucked away wiggle room everywhere.
The outside looks interesting given the small wiggle room EV have on design. We will not have dramatically unique car designs till battery tech gets 10x energy dense and cars can afford not being shaped like an egg shell
The inside is all Ferrari/Ive choice. There are some cool touches like the display unit. But majority is constricted by supply chain optimization. There’s only so much you can deviate before things start costing an arm/leg at the scale Ferrari sells cars. Ferrari can afford custom manufacturing with some manual work but not hand manufacturing everything.
I find nearly all Ferrari models ugly AF so I’m happy we’re not getting another tiny dick monstrosity but instead just another generic ugly EV.
That’s a nice looking Peugeot.
Was thinking Honda but I agree that it fails to fit the design lineage of Ferrari.
That’s because it wasn’t designed by ferrari but by the former chief designer of Apple.
That explains. Still, it’s hardly an excuse, a competent designer would know how to pay homage to his/her predecessors.
I’m with ya on the Honda vibes. Really disappointed by the design.
I think they were referring to designs like the Honda e 😅
10/10 would have beckoned Barbie to go celebrating
Also, the tow truck for this thing is Lucifer.
And why is the interior from an e500?
The sports car manufacturer’s cycle of business:
- Lose revenue due to EV competition.
- Design EV that looks like a cotton candy/kid’s toys version of your other cars.
- EV sells poorly.
- Scrap EV plans and return to non-EV lineup.
- Go back to 1.
I’m genuinely curious about the reliability. I’ve been lucky enough to own a lot of cars in my life. I will tell you every somewhat modern/modern exotic car I’ve owned has been an absolute piece of over priced shit beyond "it looks and sounds cool’'. I kid you not probably every other time I drove my Lamborghini Aventador with 5k miles some stupid shit would break, radiator hoses, electrical problems, misfires and they all cost stupid amounts of money to fix. While my 2002 Camry has 185k miles with only regular maintenance and I’d feel comfortable driving it across the US.
I get they’re meant to be looked at ect, but if you can’t design a radiator hose that lasts over 2 years and 5k miles you’ve got a serious engineering problem. Hell, I had a 68’ mustang that still has the the OEM from the factory before I replaced it and it technically still was fine. Absolutely ridiculous, these things are like a bunch of expensive parts just bolted together like a 2nd grader did it.
Sorry for the rant. These cars are one of the few things that ligit get me pissed as an automotive lover.
Isn’t that just Italian manufacturing quality. Same with how McLarens and Range Rovers aren’t very reliable despite the high price tag that‘s just because British manufacturing is generally trash. (Though Rolls Royce is the exception especially their jet engine production department)
Like Porsche builds reliable sports cars.
I wonder if it possible to design a maintenance free car, and if the market would even reward it.
It’d take the consumers a decade to even notice that they didn’t need any maintenance.
They probably can build an EV that is maintenance free, except for the batteries wearing down. Electric engines are very reliable because they are relatively simple.
Toyota has done this but they stopped making the original line of those unkillable pickup trucks long ago
Is it possible to make an EV that doesn’t look like a dorks version of a futuristic car? Just make it look normal and people will buy it.
It was only a concept but I thought the DS Survolt looked wicked back in the day.
Or they could just, you know, design the same as a gasoline car and use some molding tricks if volume is a concern.
Renault 5
And the renault 4, renault twingo. Seriously Renault has been doing a stellar job.
I feel the I8 doesn’t look bad at all.I am pretty certain this is a hybrid.
You are 100% correct. My bad.
This is the internet, double down and call them a slur.
That and this isn’t a practical car. I mean 99% of people who even buy this aren’t buying it as a DD. Something like a Porsche Cayenne would be more something that’s more reasonable if you want peoole to buy it and DD.
There are some fundemental problem with making an EV look like a “normal car” though.
EVs are more dense than their ICE counterparts. This means that the whole vehicle needs more structure to protect it in a rollover than an ICE of the same size. Thicker frames and pillars in a smaller car end up making it look bulgy and weird.
I think (but not 100% sure) that EVs are required to have extra protection for the battery to prevent them from getting punctured and having a “thermal runaway” event. This makes the cars even more pudgy.
The energy source and propulsion methods have changed, which will affect their design of the cars. Much in the same way early jet airplanes looked like regular airplanes with jets attached, EVs started as regular cars with electric motors. We’re currently in the weird transition phase of EV design. We’re seeing the EV equivalent of the P80 Shooting star, and maybe starting to get into some cars that are akin to the F86 Sabre. We have a long way to go until the design catches up to the propulsion.
I worked at a lithium ion battery company for 11 years. If anything, the switch to EVs gives you even more options for body shape/type. The batteries are located at the bottom of the frame, and the motors are hub motors located at the wheels. It gives the vehicle a lower center of gravity, and gives the body designers artistic freedom to make it look however they like. I don’t accept the argument that it has to look dorky. The original Tesla Roadster was just a modified Lotus Elise, and it looked basically bone stock. There is no need for the front to be loaded up with a huge motor, there is a reason a lot of EVs have a “frunk”…there is just a bunch of extra room. No need for an oil reservoir, or a transmission, or hydraulic brake lines and reservoir, or any other fluids.
Teslas look pretty normal
Just in case someone here isn’t familiar, it’s not that ICE. It’s “Internal Combustion Engine” aka most cars when people think of cars
Thanks for the context.
You mean like regular EV’s? Because there is a whole bunch of them that look perfectly normal.
As for sports EV’s: I am quite liking the Audi GT.
I really like the design of the Dodge Charger EV, but the super loud speaker blasting fake engine sounds is dumb (yeah I know you can turn it off, but ew) and the thing is notoriously unreliable.
Anyhow yeah, my Kona EV looks like a non-EV Kona. People mostly only notice that cars are electric when they’re a wacky design or charging in public.
If I could have any EV, it would probably be the Audi.
Yeah, I’ve been wanting one of those since they were announced. Such a good looking car.
Ferrari execs, probably: “No, we have to make clear that we’re modern™ and there’s more to our cars than toxic masculinity!!!”
… which might even be a good selling point for a lot of people, except for the kind of people who buy a Ferrari.
Is it possible to make an EV that doesn’t look like a dorks version of a futuristic car?
Yeah. Tesla looks pretty decent… Except its designed to trap you inside, and prevent outside help as you burn alive.
The normal person priced sedan thing has the same awkward “Look I’n Electric” proportions as that Ferrari. It’s only the stupid priced Tesla’s that looks less stupid.
See also: cyber truck.
Yeah it’s ugly as fuck. But other models look quite good.
The big fat ass elevate screen in the middle of the dashboard looks like cheap shit.
The outside looks like a late 1990s European high end car.
It’s high tech made to look cheap using plastic and putting what’s basically a computer monitor as centerpiece rather smoothly intergrating it with the rest, all wrapped in a frame which is an outdated idea of a luxury car.
(IMHO, or course)
I meant outside. Inside 90s style knobs and buttons always ruled and noone is ever going to make me think otherwise
The outside looks like a late 1990s European high end car.
I like European high end cars
Even the door handles in the Tesla are a 1990s idea of what high tech looks like.
It’s like those cars were designed by an aged geek with no sophistication in taste rather than by a designer.
(And I am myself an aged geek, but, shit, I like to think I actually got a little bit more subtle and demanding with age in my appreciation of the beauty in things).
Even the door handles in the Tesla are a 1990s idea of what high tech looks like.
In the 90s it was perfectly possible to build these handles but noone was dumb enough to actually implement it outside of concept cars.
It’s like those cars were designed by an aged geek with no sophistication in taste rather than by a designer.
Actually most tesla models were designed by an actual designer named Franz von Holzhausen. Musk didn’t sit at the drawing board with a pancil.
My best guess would be that Musk demanded all the stupid concept car shit from the team resulting in stupid LCD screen and those cursed door handles.
Like, they just couldn’t be bothered to make it good looking?
I don’t think it looks bad.
Yeah, it just looks generic. It should look like a fuckin g Ferrari though!
The stupidest thing is how Ferrari has historically gone to great lengths to make their cars sleek and pointy despite the need to accommodate big-ass radiators and engine intakes, yet just when using an electric drivetrain makes ‘sleek and pointy’ easy for them, they come out with this boxy shit instead!
And even worse, it’s a sedan (which Ferrari has never made before). WTF.
Clearly, what happened here is that the bean-counters insisted that Ferrari needed to diversify into new market segments (both more practical cars and EVs) but somebody at the top hated the idea, so they did it in the most sabotaged, begrudging way possible. They didn’t have the courage to make a proper two-seat electric sports car.
Ferrari has in fact made several sedans.
And a station wagon / estate.
First sentence of the article:
The new model departs from the look of typical Ferraris as the Italian brand’s first ever five-seater,
I guess maybe I shouldn’t have read that and assumed. I knew they had 2+2 two-door coupes, but didn’t know they’d made any four-seaters with four doors.
Yeah the current Purosangue is a 4 door SUV. I assumed it was a 5 seater until now.
The back doors are pretty well hidden, in the SUV, but I think I prefer the styling of the EV to many of the recent Ferraris. The suicide door are stupid though.
They didn’t even make it red so we’d know it was a Ferrari lmao
Porsche just keeps not fucking up royally and winning by default
It is weird how they made it look kinda lumpy. Like it looks better than some EVs but I’m a bit surprised this is coming from Ferrari.
Are EV engine sizes that crazy that you need a larger housing for them?
I think it looks like a six year old tried to draw one of the flatter Porsches from memory.
Well Sir Jony Ive did play a part in that design so yeah its shit.
Disagree, I love the way it looks!
Edit: I mean, whoo!.. is that a hole instead of a front grill, that goes under the hood and over the windshield? Now that’s radical, man!
I’ve seen this on an electric Dodge Challenger (which is also quite ugly in my opinion). This hole and the wing above it act as a spoiler and fast cars need all the downforce they can get, so I guess this will become a norm for fast electric cars in the future.
I like it too… There are dozens of us! Dozens!
