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    That’s a completely different matter, the economy was doing fine, but there was inflation in the aftermath of Covid, which was steadily improving.
    Choosing a moron narcissist like Trump will only make it worse for average people, so what exactly is your point?
    That you are better off with Trump. 🤣🤣🤣

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      not to mention trumps lifelong obsession with using tariffs to solve his problems.

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        The economy wasn’t “doing fine” for more than half the population.

        People who think like that are the reason Trump got elected.

        the economy ≠ standard of living

        The problem was purchasing power, wages, and inflation. People’s standard of living was suffering, but the “economy” wasn’t. Conflating the two is why Trump’s stupid rhetoric resonated so much with the uneducated Magats that voted him in: they thought he was promising to fix their standard of living, while the reality was that he was promising to “fix” something that wasn’t broken.

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            You’re making a very big leap in assuming I don’t condemn the Democrats and their attempt to convince voters everything is fine.

            They’re a party led by geriatric, upper-class rulers. No shit, their doubling down on “the economy is fine” didn’t work—they don’t understand or care to understand what the people want. All they care about is what their corporate donors pay them to care about.

            That doesn’t absolve the rural conservative voters, though. The literal definition of economy is the wealth and resources of a country as a whole. As far as things were going, our lovely oligarchs and mega corporations were doing just fine and skewing that number upwards. And that’s the problem. It’s not that we had a failing economy; it’s that we have disgustingly bad wealth distribution. A voter base capable of understanding what they’re actually asking for (higher wages, more purchasing power, higher taxes for multimillionaires) would have seen right through Trump’s sensationalist bullshit, not barreled directly into it.

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        The economy wasn’t “doing fine” for more than half the population.

        You and them are about to find out how good it was… it’s about to fall off a cliff for most

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        Wages are still stagnant,

        Wages were increasing more-quickly than inflation when Biden left office. We had a high rate of inflation, at which point inflation grew more quickly than wages, during the COVID-19 pandemic. That produces a decline in real wages. However, that relationship had reversed by the time Biden left office.

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        The economy wasn’t “doing fine” for more than half the population.

        Actually yes it was, there was inflation after covid, but that was steadily getting better.
        Criticizing the ones that do better is not constructive, that just makes you sound like a fanatic MAGA Trump supporter.
        Obviously things are way worse under Trump, and you have to buy only 2 dolls now! If you can’t see how that moron is malignant IDK what to tell.

        If you want more left wing politicians to succeed, the only option at elections right now is to support democrats, and push for more left wing candidates.

        It’s extremely tiresome to hear the constant whining about how Biden wasn’t good enough, when he obviously was the better option at the time. Don’t blame Biden, blame the ignorant people who voted against their own interests to hurt others, like immigrants, lgbt, colored people and pregnant women. What they forget is that they become victims too, because Trump is also going after the poor and working class.

        You are either working for Putin, or you are working against your own interests with posts like the response you made to the fact that Biden delivered a very healthy economy to Trump.

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        companies that are no longer paying their employees enough to live.

        I just find another job with higher pay, I don’t expect or beg my current employer to pay me more. I move elsewhere if they don’t pay me enough. It is just business, nothing personal.

        If my employer is not paying me what I can get elsewhere, including the rest of the world, I see that my boss is either cheating me or is incompetent. So I start interviewing new bosses and fire current boss as soon as I find a competent one.

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            I don’t have any expectations, nor do I care if I understand inflation. If i get a higher paying job, i will be ahead of the inflation.

            I don’t care what my current employer pays me, I do not negotiate. if i have to negotiate a higher salary with current employer i see that as evidence that my current employer being incompetent and not doing his job. This is ground for dismissal. So I find and move to a new company that pays my expected salary.

            End of the day, my purchasing power must remain the same or increase.

            So I just find a higher paying job that accepts my higher expected salary, fire my current boss, and move to the new job. It is not rocket science. It is just business, nothing personal. My service is a product, and its value rises with inflation.

            In fact the moment I start any job i start looking for the next one. In this way I am always trying to upgrade my skill so that I can get the next job.

            Don’t be loyal to your boss because they will never be loyal to you.

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            hcol does not equal how well the economy is doing, is due to much different factors.

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            Raising wages inflation can also cause issues as it can at times solidify the inflation that’s happened because now the cheapest thing to make now costs more to make such means people need more money to buy things.

            Which is why whenever minimum wage increases it didn’t seem to actually fix anything, it just keeps the status quo where the working class are struggling, kept at the point of struggle. It’s like financial edging.

            The issue that needs to actually get solved is for the rich to be less likely to hoard wealth and to stop paying c-suites exorbitant salaries, and actually being hard as fuck on their proposed taxes instead of letting them dodge it.