United States President Donald Trump has denied being dragged into war with Iran by Israel as he faces increasing criticism over the conflict, including from segments of his own base.

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    Translation: Netanyahu talked Trump into it, but Trump was too stupid to know he’d been played.

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      In all fairness, “This is false, Trump is lying” is by far the most likely thing when he says anything that makes him look better (or at least less bad).

      IMHO the most likely scenarion is that Trump was played by Netanyahu, later figured it out or was told that he had been played and now is lying about not having been played in the first place.

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        Why assuming he was played? The action the administration took to make this happen was too extreme to say “he was played”

        The money all the rich made with market manipulation doesn’t indicate he was played.

        Everything point at him and his groups to be actively benefiting from this situation.

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          He’s a psychologically sick guy with a profound Narcisist complex whose constantly harping about how he’s great at everything.

          People who believe themselves better than everybody else and hence would never fall for a scam are some of the best marks around for scammers.

          So it seems like a reasonable explanation that he got swindled into doing something which superficially looked like a win - especially in light of the recent similar “win” in Venezuela - but had secondary effects which turned it into a defeat.

          Mind you, I’m not “assuming” jack shit, I’m just putting forward what I think is a likely explanation.

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    No. They manipulated him into it. Trump is rather thick after all and easily sells his love and trust for shiny trinkets.

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    He is calling it a war, Donny you dropped some bombs on people and now it’s the worst possible shit show it could have been.

    The war with Iran …pfffh

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    Mossad Agent Epstein never gave Netanyahu any proof of my pedophile rapes, and all of the Zionist money funding my election to “finish the job” of genocide, helps me understand that everything bibi ever says is always true, and so no bibi didn’t force me into war, only demonic Zionist supremacism as the truth, did. The dotard, is incapable of admitting that he failed to see through bibi lies that 5 previous presidents (1 of them him) had enough qualified advisers to not do stupid.

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    So it was not about alliances? You just started a war unilaterally, because you had a bad day.

    This guy is begging to be impeached.

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      Israel wouldn’t want him impeached, so Schumer will never let impeachment happen.

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      He could nuke Iran, kidnap refugees, and personally execute them on live television without getting impeached. There is no mechanism to really threaten him.

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    Obviously Israel talked him into the war and told him to deny it.

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      Worse.

      They talked him into a war and it’s obvious to everyone except trump and maybe Joe Biden.

      I think they both legitimately still see Israel as “the good guys”, because their brains are mush.

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          They do, but that’s not it.

          He’s letting Kushner handle everything with Israel, it all flows thru him like Cheney had everything run thru him with GW.

          Kushner is a zionist, he wants what Bibi wants.

          So instead of America negotiating with Israel, Bibi tells Kushner what he wants, and Kushner frames it as the best and only option to trump, usually with Ivanka greasing the wheels.

          Just like Cheney told GW the Irag war was the only possible option, Kushner says anything Bibi wants is the only possible option.

          I legitimately wouldn’t be surprised to find out they’ve been diverting food from US naval ships to send to Israel at this point.

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        Good and evil don’t play into it, they believe in nothing, only self-interest.

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          they believe in nothing, only self-interest.

          The fuck you think “evil” is?

          Edit to clarify:

          “Evil” like exists in media isn’t real, it’s propaganda from the people in power to convince you they’re the good guys and they overcame “evil” so we’re better off with them than without.

          It’s an excuse to give them too much power. And it’s such a good excuse that people in power will manufacture terrible situations to just that “evil” is a natural phenomona on a large scale. And they’re never put good effort into any type of peace. They want/need perpetual lie to keep people scared enough they’d turn over all their own wealth and actual security.

          That’s the most evil shit in the real weird, and there’s so much of it we don’t need to worry about boogeymen.

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    The man is so simple I almost feel bad for him. Then I remember what he’s done.