GAZA CITY, GAZA—Following conflicting accounts of a horrific attack on a Gaza hospital, officials from the Israeli Defense Forces released a new statement Wednesday that claimed it was you, the reader of this very article, who committed the act of terror.

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    What 500 people? That is entirely unconfirmed, you incredulous fool.

    You act like I’m an Israeli apologist, and I’m not. Fuck Israel. They are ultimately at fault for creating and infling this conflict. If anything, I side with the Palestinians, though not Hamas. Still, I’m going to judge the mechanics of particular incidents on their own merits.

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      No one who believes the (absurd and obviously false, in this case) lies of genocidal monsters is on the side of the Palestinians, full stop, especially if you think it’s wrong for Hamas to use violence against the oppressors.

      PS: I love how you’re more ready to be skeptical of Palestinians claims about number of deaths than you are of Israeli claims of innocence. thonk

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        You can’t trust PR being put out by either side in a conflict. My opinions are based entirely on what experts have to say based on evidence that has been confirmed by both Israel and Palestinians.

        I posted my opinion of this conflict as soon as it started. Check my history if you think I’m pretending for credibility purposes. Israel is an oppressor, and both sides are terrorists, targeting and killing civilians. I’ll even say that if Israel had a strategic or tactical reason to bomb the hospital that they wouldn’t even hesitate. It’s well within their character to do so. My assumption going in was that they probably did it, but I’m now almost entirely convinced that they didn’t.

        On the topic of Genocide, it is explicitly the goal of Hamas (not the Palestinian people generally) to commit genocide against Israel. That’s not enough to blame them for every attack on Israel.

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          Why would I need to check your history? You’re both-sides-ing a settler-colonialist genocide here. Hamas’s goal is fighting off the Zionist entity, not genocide, and your acceptance of that horseshit claim makes clear that you believe anything the Western media tells you, hence your appeal to the authority of “experts” (all of whom are doubtless employed by, or at minimum enthusiastically on the side of, Western media companies or militaries) on this particular claim, rather than any independent thought.

          PS: Since you’re so dependent on “experts,” here’s some that argue the opposing side: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/19/what-hit-ahli-hospital-in-gaza https://www.channel4.com/news/who-was-behind-the-gaza-hospital-blast-visual-investigation

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            Did you even watch that video before linking it. It was just the typical “Israel says this, Hamas says this” shallow reporting with nothing but superficial analysis. It even concludes by saying that it is still unknown and that expert analysis is required - meaning it hadn’t been done yet or they were unaware of it.

            I support the Palestinian cause - insomuch as that cause is freeing the Palestinian people from Israeli oppression. I do not support the Hamas cause, of “Destroying Israel and establishing an Islamic theocracy in Palestine”. That is their stated goal.

            It’s not “both sides” to accept the reality of the situation. It’s two groups that want to annihilate each-other. The difference is that Israel has all the power and, instead they chose to provoke this conflict by continuing to steal land and treat Palestinians like prison inmates. Oppressive regimes always lead to conflict.

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              It’s not “both sides” to accept the reality of the situation.

              This is you, 42 minutes ago:

              both sides are terrorists

              Anyway, I’m done. Enjoy being a stooge for genocidal powers you say you don’t support. If this were a post on my home instance I’d be a lot more rude right now; as it is, all I’ll say is that this experience, for me, is best encapsulated in this emote:

              wall-talk

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                Both sides are humans therefore both sides are exactly the same, right? The words “both sides” don’t by themselves indicate that someone is asserting equality. Both sides literally are terrorists. Both sides are not equally to blame for this conflict. Both sides are however responsible for their attacks on civilians.

                Be rude as you like, but it won’t make you any smarter.

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              Your proof is a fucking vlog. You have cited nothing except the Israeli narrative and your hemming and hawing doesnt take away from your total unciritcal support of Israeli lies

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                It’s a pretty solid blog, and the blog references evidence you could look up yourself. It may be a blog, but that’s way more evidence than anyone else here provided.