Pro-Palestinian voters are facing a moral dilemma.
  • تحريرها كلها ممكن@lemmy.ml
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    14 days ago

    Trump wasn’t president, I never voted or will ever vote for him. We had zero success pushing Biden to stop the genocide why do you think we will have any success with Harris?

    • millie@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      14 days ago

      Israel’s treatment of Palestine has certainly been unacceptable for much longer than Biden’s presidency, but their current bout of genocide is much more recent. The DNC has been faced with a political decision about whether it’s a greater risk to alienate centrist Israel supporters or leftist Palestine supporters in an election year when the literal collapse of any semblance of American democracy is on the table. The stakes, domestically, literally could not be higher. If we lose, it’s likely to end in either a generation of extreme fascist authoritarianism or outright civil war to prevent it. We’re very likely to have two supreme court seats coming up in this next term, which would give Trump five appointments to the supreme court, as well as the opportunity to dismantle any semblance of anything good the US has achieved in the past generation.

      Biden was faced with an impossible choice, and so is Harris. But that danger will literally evaporate on November 6th. At that point, a narrow margin of support isn’t a matter of life or death for the preservation of some semblance of American democracy.

      The US has overwhelming military dominance and an incredible potential for force projection. That power falling into the hands of a fascist who cozies up to the world’s worst dictators would be an absolute disaster for the entire world. Unimaginable as it may be with the current atrocities being committed by Israel, it would be worse for Palestine. It would be worse for everyone.

      Trump was bad enough the first time around, but he didn’t have the agenda he does now. He didn’t have a Republican party ready to burn down any chance of the US having legitimate governance in the next half-century without a civil war.

      Trump winning at this point would be a global catastrophe.

      When the storm has passed, we can at least try to pressure Harris. Is it guaranteed? No. But Trump is guaranteed to make it much much worse.

      Harris at least snubbed Netanyahu. That’s a better sign than we’re seeing from anyone else in the running for office.

      • تحريرها كلها ممكن@lemmy.ml
        21·
        14 days ago

        The DNC has been faced with a political decision about whether it’s a greater risk to alienate centrist Israel supporters or leftist Palestine supporters in an election year when the literal collapse of any semblance of American democracy is on the table.

        Biden was faced with an impossible choice, and so is Harris. But that danger will literally evaporate on November 6th.

        So you are telling me that enabling the genocide was an election-winning tactic? Then the Democrats never needed our votes. Heck, maybe if I send them my home address they can bomb me and win even more votes with centrist Israel supporters.

        • millie@beehaw.orgEnglish
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          14 days ago

          Do I think tiptoeing around the issue and maintaining the status quo is a tactic to retain the votes and donations of Zionists? Absolutely. It’s 100% par for the course of political game-playing. Do I wish they’d speak out against it and completely cut off all support for Israel? Also absolutely.

          Do you not think the DNC is making a calculated political move to keep people who care more about supporting Israel than doing what’s right on-side?

          Whether or not the DNC has their heads up their asses on their political strategy doesn’t lessen the reality that Harris has the potential to be pushed against Israel and has already signaled her disapproval of Netanyahu or that Trump has come out and told the genocidal monster to ‘finish the job’.